cgra1 wrote:HQCompany Commander with Powerfist, Voxcaster, Lascannon
Officer of the Fleet - (Just to upset those that rely on outflanking and Deep strike)
Troops
Platoon Commander with powerfist, Lascannon
4XInfantry squads with 4XAutocannons, 2XFlamers, 2X Plasma Guns, 2X Sgts with Power Weapon, 2X Sgts with Plasma Pistols
2X Commissars
Veterans with 3XPlasma and powerfist 1XAutocannon in Vendetta (3 Lascannons)
Veterans with 3XMeltaguns and Powerfist in Chimera with Hvy Flamer
Fast
Banewolf with Multi Melta
Heavy
Leman Russ Battle tank with Lascannon and Battle Cannon
Manticore Missile Launcher
Honestly there's loads of fat in here - the power fists (in all cases) aren't needed & simpley burn points. Power weapons on the sargeants are also wasted - they don't kill enough & are prone to being shot by commisars - plasma pistols as well are massively redundant. I'd argue that plasma guns in line squads are also points wasted.
Lose the power fists = 60 points
Lose the power weapons = 20 points
Lose the plasma pistols = 20 points
Drop Plasma guns to flamers in infantry squads = 20points
Drop single vocaster (doesn't do anything alone) = 5 points
Total saved = 125 points
Now, it looks like you have either too many, or too little vehicles. The
LR, manticore, and Chimera can go to give you an AirCav army with blob support:
Remove
LR, manicore & chimera = 380 points
Remove banewolf to give more room for
FA slots = 135pts
Total to play with = 640pts
Add 2 vendettas = 260pts
Add 1 melta vet squad = 100pts
Total still left = 280pts
Use for chimeras to protect blob squads, artillery, hydras, or add another Valk/vendetta & vet squad.
Or you could go with AV12 spam:
Remove
LR = 165points
Total to play with = 290 pts
Add banewolf/devil dog/hellhound: 135 points
Add 2 x hydra = 150 points
If you drop the vendetta you xcan fit in another melta vet squad in a chimera with a bit of trimming... I'd probably drop the manticore in that case, as you're getting enough melta to take out land raiders & use the points for moar stuff.
cgra1 wrote:So that’s the plan but in reality what happens is My Infantry hold up for 3-4 turns but i struggle to get anything other than the Vendetta across the the board.
Can you suggest a unit to replace the Manticore that would allow me to get troops acros the board and put pressure on the enemy objective, thereby alieviating my own allowing me to do more than fight on my side of the table?
Thanks
The problem is:
You don't have enough men
You don't have enough vehicles
At 1500 you'll need to go one way or the other really...
Here's my list for comparison (which isn't a million miles away from yours)
CCS - 3 x melta, chimera
PCS - 3 x flamer
2 x infantry, autocannons, commisar
2 x infantry, autocannons, commisar
Vets - 3 x melta, chimera
Vets - 3 x melta, chimera
Vets - 3 x plasma, chimera
Stormtroopers x 5 - 2 x melta
Banewolf - smoke launchers
Hydra
Hydra
Basilisk - enclosed crew compartment
There's multi-redundant melta for
LR destruction.
There's multi redundant autocannons & multi-lasers for light transport killing
There's enough shots to take out a hoard army if properly set up
Nothing can hide from me due to the bassie & the stormies
There's AP3 killers everywhere
It's a bit template nowadays, but in my defence - mine was first!
But compare mine to yours:
AV12: mine = 8, yours = 4
AV14: mine = 0, yours = 1
Infantry: mine = 85, yours = 71