LordMalekTheRedKnight wrote:

jlong05 wrote:Probably a stupid question, but can you have 3 HQs?

hint: its an Apoc list.



~ Tim

Ah I forgot he said that a few posts back. my bad.

Well with the ML I can use Frag or Krak so it could be used for anti infantry. I would like to down the road get 2 Greater Daemons though, these would fit that bill ( I love em )



That is the Forgeworld BloodThirster 250.00 USD geez

This is one of those times when reality is being a bit malleable (like when everybody is talking 3" to your right etc). I still make a bunch of those points wrong.

(TROOP) 10CSM 1w/flamer 1w/meltagun =300
Icon Bearer (mark of Slaanesh)
Champion with power Sword (all in a Rhino)
{rhino extra amour and Dozer Blade & Havoc}

men inc champion upgrade=165
Weapon upgrades, icons etc = 50
Car costs in total=70
=285

(ELITE) 5 Terminators 1/w AC = 265
champion, icon of Glory & autocannon

Men inc champ upgrade=160
wargear weapons icons etc=35
=195


(HEAVY) Predator w/LC and xtra amour =195
{dozer blade, extra amour , combi-flamer}

(not completely sure of the config
If it just has a lascannon turret and no sponsons=135
if it has the default turret with las sponsons=160

(HEAVY) 5 Havocs 1w/ AC & 1w/LC & 2w/ML and Bolter = 180

Men 75
4 various weapons=95
=170


(FAST) 8 Raptors = 260
w/mark of Glory 1w/ melta gun & 1w/ flamer
1 Champion w/lightning claws & melta bombs

Wargear,weapons,icons,bombs etc=55
Men (inc champ upgrade)=175
=230

I don't suppose a third party with a codex could just step up and check?
Tactically I think there is a fair amount I'd swap around etc, but maybe you just want to play a few more games before?
If its apocolypse will it be on a larger table?
If so I hope your flankmarching or having some kind of homebrew parachute system for the foot slogging beserkers.

killmaimburn wrote:This is one of those times when reality is being a bit malleable (like when everybody is talking 3" to your right etc). I still make a bunch of those points wrong.

(TROOP) 10CSM 1w/flamer 1w/meltagun =300
Icon Bearer (mark of Slaanesh)
Champion with power Sword (all in a Rhino)
{rhino extra amour and Dozer Blade & Havoc}

men inc champion upgrade=165
Weapon upgrades, icons etc = 50
Car costs in total=70
=285

285 in Army Builder 3 too, unless it's 10 CSM + Champ (so 11 total) in which case it's 300pts.

killmaimburn wrote:(ELITE) 5 Terminators 1/w AC = 265
champion, icon of Glory & autocannon

Men inc champ upgrade=160
wargear weapons icons etc=35
=195

195 in AB3 too. If you take 5 termies w/ac, plus champion with ac, then it's 250pts so still wrong but it's also not legal because you cannot have 2 autocannons in the one unit.

killmaimburn wrote:(HEAVY) Predator w/LC and xtra amour =195
{dozer blade, extra amour , combi-flamer}

(not completely sure of the config
If it just has a lascannon turret and no sponsons=135
if it has the default turret with las sponsons=160

Yep, 135 in AB3 without the sponsons. If las sponsons are added with las turret then it's 195pts.

killmaimburn wrote:(HEAVY) 5 Havocs 1w/ AC & 1w/LC & 2w/ML and Bolter = 180

Men 75
4 various weapons=95
=170

170 in AB3 too. Maybe it's also got icon of chaos glory which hasn't been listed, that would make it 180.

killmaimburn wrote:(FAST) 8 Raptors = 260
w/mark of Glory 1w/ melta gun & 1w/ flamer
1 Champion w/lightning claws & melta bombs

Wargear,weapons,icons,bombs etc=55
Men (inc champ upgrade)=175
=230

And again, 230 in AB3. If you make it 8 + AC (so 9 total) it comes to 250pts which is closer.

killmaimburn wrote:I don't suppose a third party with a codex could just step up and check?

It's definitely not an AB3 problem - it looks like HH is just not listing all the options in some cases, and in others you're just misreading the unit sizes.