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750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:10 pm
by mattjgilbert
So... imagine I might be playing in a doubles tournament next month :wink: and need a 750 point list (using the models I have). Here are 3 options I just knocked up. Which seems the most suitable? Which would you like to be on your side (assuming you don't curse the fact you got lumped with deamons) or which if any would you not like to face?

EDIT: Note that the FOC for each player is 1-6 Troop and 0-1 everything else.

List 1 (mixed)
8 Bloodletters
7 Nurglings
3 Fiends + Unholy might
1 Bloodthirster + Unholy might
1 Soul Grinder + Phlegm
749 points


List 2 (all khorne)
8 Bloodletters
8 Bloodletters
1 Bloodthirster + Unholy might
3 Blood crushers
6 Flesh hounds + Fury of Khorne
746 points


List 3 (shooty...mostly)
10 Bloodletters (I don't have any horrors to do the shooty list properly :( )
1 Soul Grinder + Phlegm
1 Soul Grinder + Phlegm
3 Flamers + Bolt of Tzeentch
1 Herald of Khorne on Jugger + Unholy might + Death Strike
750 points

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:29 pm
by lostandthedamned
From the models in those lists i'd take:
1 Bloodthirster
8 Bloodletters
8 Bloodletters
3 Bloodcrushers (musician + Rending)
3 Flamers

Paired with anything not too shooty. Last thing you need is to strike into assault range only to get your target killed first.

A bit of AT would be nice so Guard Mech list would be cool. Vet meltas crack your opponents out of their tanks then you pounce. You can also use the chimera's as a nice shield to DS behind if against an Ubershooty force.

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:36 pm
by killmaimburn
NOTA (heneforth none of the above.)
I'd go for a variant of 2 I'll call it 2b

bloodthirster with might
3 bloodcrushers
3 flamers
8 Bloodletters
8 Bloodletters
746
Hounds just don't rock as much as flamers (who also are good at horde control...) alt- consider swapping hounds for counts as fiends since they do everything the doggies do but better)
the only stuff I might miss of the above is the soulgrinders, but it would cost you 1 full troops choice and a bloodcrusher to fit one in.
the only downside to my version (and some of yours) is you'll need anti AV14 being carried by your ally a fair bit.

Gah ninja'd by LATD oh well at least we said the same thing

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:45 pm
by mattjgilbert
Well I have 3 fiends and the hounds were there because it was a khorne only list ;)

Do the crushers really need rending? With power weapons anyway, it's points to get a possible D3 more to a damage roll should you attack a vehicle only isn't it?

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:51 pm
by mattjgilbert
Hang on.. both of you picked 2 Elites! That's not allowed in LH's rules!

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:39 pm
by lostandthedamned
You need to tell us these things.

I went for icon & rending just to play the wound allocation game.
I also have a good record of charging dreds to death, cause 6's to pen is better than 6's to glance. It also makes receiving a charge not auto death.

If you've got a figure for it then drop the flamers & musician upgrade for a DP with Iron Hide.

edit:

My Personal List

Keeper of Secrets - Might & Transfixing Gaze
3 Flamers
7 Bloodletters
7 Bloodletters
Daemon Prince - Mark of Slannesh, Aura, Might, Iron Hide, Pavanne of Slannesh

Put the Flamers and the DP in the same wave. Enhanced Daemon Bomb a big hole in their army. Clean up with whats left.

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:58 pm
by mattjgilbert
Sorry, I forgot people might not have been reading the tournament thread (those not going to WHW next month probably are not interested!)

FOC per player is 1-6 Troop and 0-1 everything else.

I went for icon & rending just to play the wound allocation game.
I wouldn't even have thought of that...



EDIT... list 3 is invalid as it has 2 SGs in it...aaaarrrrgh :oops:

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:24 pm
by Stunty
Gotta say I'd love to be teamed up with a khorne list for the tournament..
Id be tempted to go either

Thirster
8 Letters
8 Letters
5 Crushers - instrument, fury, icon

or

Thirster
8 Letters
8 Letters
7 Letters
3 Crushers - Instrument, fury

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:47 pm
by mattjgilbert
Well I could do the latter but I only have 3 crushers. Hang on, here's the list of everything painted (or which will be painted by the time we play).

26 Bloodletters (inc 1 icon and 1 musician)
22 Plague bearers (inc 1 icon and 1 musician)
20 Daemonettes (inc 2 icons and 2 musicians)
8 bases Nurglings

Bloodthirster
Lord of Change
Herald on jugger
The Masque
Herald of Slaanesh
Skulltaker
Epidemius

6 flamers
3 fiends
2 blood crushers
1 beast of nurgle

6 flesh hounds (inc karanak)
16 furies

2 soul grinders

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:48 pm
by Baragash
mattjgilbert wrote:Sorry, I forgot people might not have been reading the tournament thread (those not going to WHW next month probably are not interested!)


I am and your little :wink: was fat too subtle for me to make the connection!!! :oops:

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:57 pm
by mattjgilbert
I'll revisit list 2 I think. Will come back with something later. Please wait....

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:56 am
by mattjgilbert
Ok, list 2 tweaked with suggestions from above


7 Bloodletters
7 Bloodletters
7 Bloodletters
1 Bloodthirster + Unholy might + blessings
3 Blood crushers + fury + instrument
746 points

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:52 pm
by killmaimburn
Interesting..although the fluff of nurgle will curse your dice ;)
I must admit I know nothing about furies in 5th ed.. are they any good LATD (the idea I can't remember them indicates no on the gut feeling level)

Re: 750 point deamon lists

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:16 pm
by lostandthedamned
I looked at them in detail when deciding my forces and they really don't stack up.
15 pts for an assault marine with lower WS & I, that can't score. I'd probably even take flesh hounds over them.
The only unit that i'd ever really consider in the FA slot would be
1.Screamers, if I knew I was coming up against a heavy mech army and had points to spare, and
2.Seekers if my elites choices where full against mass infantry. I'd prefer to take fiends which do the same job better. (i'd also need to convert some decent non-impossible to buy models)