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Abaddon in 1500 (all the rest can change)

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Abaddon in 1500 (all the rest can change)

Postby killmaimburn » Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:54 pm

Trying to find a good list vehicle for Abaddon in 1500
I need anti tank, I need assualty stuff, I could do with some flamers and melta (I've got lazy through smurfs and have forgotten how to max them in chaos).
First draft.

Abaddon (with icon et al)- 275
3 termies, 1 combi melta,1 combi melta +Chainfist, 1 heavy flamer,-115
Buy a dedicated possessed landraider-240-
(but they'll deepstrike, the LR is for the berserkers and abbadon.)
7Beserkers + a skull champion(8 ) with fist (in LR)-208
4 Plague marines (2 melta)+ champion (5) with fist in rhino with extra combi melta-220
2 Obliterators-150
2 Obliterators-150
1Possessed vindicator-145
=1503 :oops:

hopeful scenario= LR zooms up with abaddon and zerkers to attack the enemy under cover fire from oblits and vindie.
Termies turn up close to LR to take out a vehicle (or swarm) LR moves up again, abaddon out one door zerks another engaging as many squads as possible.
PMs stay at back sitting on base protected by 3 melta shots, fist and oblits.

I feel my midfield is weak... and I'm reliant on a 1 landraider which is fragile.(hence the amount of firepower, hopefully causing a distraction)
Any points swaps anyone can see to make it better before it comes out?
Thanks for all your replies
KMB
(warseer thread- http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203715 )
You lot who GT'd how similar is this to the folks who took him in then?
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Postby Taumaul » Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:17 pm

I faced Abbodon in the GT.

If I remember rightly he also had:
Kharn the Betrayer
2 Landraiders
1 unit of Berzerkers
2 units of Death Guard one of which was in a Rhino.

Exact weapon options I cant remember.

I did have a copy of his list, but I seem to have misplaced it. :oops:
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Postby mattjgilbert » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:11 pm

The single LR does look like a big target.

1503!

I guess you consider rhinos too fragile as a delivery system?
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Postby killmaimburn » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:32 am

Cheers Gav, will factor in best bits, whilst trying to avoid buying 2nd LR. :?

Delivery? like royal mail leaving it at the end of your street. You can't charge out of a rhino, meaning its 3 turns to get into assualt rather than 2.(if it stays mobile)
LH plays 4-5 av 12 +4 other vehicles and those av 12 still all just pop around the place.. I don't think a rhino is safe.(unless its hidden by a landraider).. and we ignore you crazy fiends who forbid cover for shooting through abstract woods. :P
With new damage table and unavailability of high str weapons..its a variant of who brings a baneblade wins(note I am the only person I know who fields at least 10 melta if other people were sensible like that I'd probably reevaluate the LR)
Yes 1503- you may add a smoke launcher to your army if you wish :lol: . List building is stupid now they've removed all the subtlety and loads of options.. I can't say "I don't need that extra attack there.. thats 5 points saved" I have to say "right my anti tank termies become irrelevant if facing swarms"
I guess I'll drop the combi melta off the rhino, but it removes the threat the rhino posseses if it decides to cover an advance.
2nd draft soon
Cheers
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Postby Antubis » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:35 pm

Also Abaddon can't ride in a rhino.

Clearly KMB and I think alike, I thought up a similar list week or two ago, mine however, isn't tacitly sound:

Abaddon @ 275 Pts

Typhus @ 225 Pts

3 Terminators @ 155 Pts
Lightning Claws (pair) x2; Heavy Flamer; Icon of Nurgle.

Land Raider @ 245 Pts
Daemonic Possession.

5 Chaos Space Marines @ 100 Pts
Plasmagun; Icon of Chaos Glory.

5 Chaos Space Marines @ 100 Pts
Plasmagun; Icon of Chaos Glory.

5 Chaos Space Marines @ 100 Pts
Plasmagun; Icon of Chaos Glory.

2 Obliterators @ 150 Pts

2 Obliterators @ 150 Pts

Total 1500 Pts
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Postby killmaimburn » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:43 am

Hehe, with that outlay I'm surprised you don't drop a tactical squad pair of lightning claws and have a greater demon coming off a termie as well..
(note not tactically advisable.. but it looks like your aiming for something near there..a 700 point transporter..yowsers :)

I'm still trying to make it work without requiring 2 landraiders- I've had a tip from harry on warseer.I just nede to find out if I'm allowed to share it.

you not comingthis summer antubis? Did the hard sell for the hotel put you off? Or is it just that we choose the worst weekend for your timetable?
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Postby Antubis » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:03 pm

I think I will be coming as I now have a car and thus don't have to wait on a train for an hour or so because of football supporters.:evil:
I'm also thinking of staying in the hotel so I can drink, when I told you I didn't drink in Feb what I failed to mention is that only applies to beer and the like, as I will happly drink vodka or tequila.
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