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Postby killmaimburn » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:41 pm

So just looking at moving over things I've had.. the only thing not moving over is fabius.. addition in a box. But all the rest is up for some sillys inc digging out my brettonians/undead for some cultist action.
So first ever try..using the abbaddon combo that everyone is raging about webside.

Abaddon-265

Troops (inc chosen cos of abbaddon)
10 chosen 4 melta in rhino- 255
10 chosen 4 plas mark of khorne on foot 260
35 cultists sit with abbaddon for all his stealhty pants goodys.150 pts


Chaos bikers 2 +1 champ, 2 plas +combi plas=110
Chaos bikers 2 +1 champ, 2 plas +combi plas=110
10 Raptors, 2 melta, +1 gift of mutation mark of khorne. 230


Trilas pred 140
quad autocannon havoc squad 115 (meh old skool missile launchers)
quad autocannon havoc squad 115
1750== thats pretty cheap.. I had to keep adding units to make it there.

Remember folks unit prices GOOD.. wargear and specific breakdown prices= BAD

About the only thing I nash my teeth about is, I was led to believe 1 out of 5 may have whereas its still the if you end up with more than X you unlock one more.. I haven't seen anything that allows ..for example 20 strong of raptors to take 4 weapons.. which I thought chaos really needed to make large squads takable.
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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby ruffian4 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:47 pm

No daemon weapons for lords except the blinded one for khorne?
No twin lightning claw either???
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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby killmaimburn » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:31 pm

Messed about with the list to make it a bit more everything..

Abaddon-265

Troops (inc chosen cos of abbaddon)626
10 chosen 4 melta in rhino- 255
10 chosen 4 plas on foot 240 Midground holders and fire
30 cultists sit with abbaddon for all his fearless and hatred pants.130 pts
Giant wodge of do not mess with my objective in charector sniper in termie armour.


Fast attack-355
5 bikes IOS+1 Int + mutation-130 (unit sniper.. hammer of wrath+2CCWs+charge I'm hoping the champion guy should mutant up pretty quick..just testing the mechanic really)

10 Raptors, 2 melta, mark of khorne meltabombs. 225 (+2 attacks on charge and can't be charged without giving off some ouch) resilient assualt 2nd wave.


Heavy-350 Fire support (who score in big guns, dropped the 4th heavys to make them less targets and shave points)
Trilas pred 140
3 autocannon havoc squad 105 (meh old skool missile launchers)
3 autocannon havoc squad 105



Bolt on from the demon codex. 254
Herald of Tzeentch on chariot with soul devourer (force weapon)85 (distratcion assualter..how many wounds??)
5 Horrors bolt of change and changling. 100 (fire support and necessary)
3 flamers 69 points (surprised?..its new version flamers- flamerbomb)
If enemy sets up flamer bomb first with troops landing later for objective.. if reserve..set up troops and have flamer bomb later.


1850
(dropped a few cultists and a bike squad added all the demons and made the squads a bit more marked).

IOS, IOT, IOK, nurgle is too overrepresented.. lets hope that some of my sarges become mewling spawn to let him join the party.

If I get 2 people commenting on refining I might eventake a pic as I put them together.
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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby Ljundhammer » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:39 pm

Here we go:

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD - 1850

HQ: Chaos Lord - 185
Axe of blind fury, bolt pistol, Gift of mutation, Mark of Khorne, Juggernaught of Khorne, Sigil of corruption, Veteran of the long War

HQ: Kharn the Betrayer - 160

Troop: Bezerkers - 375 (Kharne goes here)
Champion - lightning claw, powerfist, Gift of mutation, Veteran of the long war
14 x Bezerkers - Icon of wrath, Vetarans of the long war

Troop: CSM - 100
Champion - combi plasma
4 x CSM - plasma gun

Fast: Bikers - 330 (Jugger lord goes here)
Champion - lightning claw, combi-plasma, Mark of Khorne, Melta bombs, Gift of mutation
9 x bikers - Mark of Khorne, icon of wrath, plasma gun x 2 (replace bike gun)

HQ: Lord Commissar (OF CHAOS!) - 85
Power fist

Troop: Platoon - 280
PCS - autocannon
30 man blob, 3 x flamer, 3 x power axes, krak grenades (lord commisar goes here)

Troop: Platoon - 325
PCS - autocannon
30 man blob, 3 x flamer, 3 x power axe, krak grenades, commissar (OF CHAOS!) with power axe & krak grenades

Total: 1840

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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby killmaimburn » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:13 pm

Put kharn in with blob lose lord commisar take primaris psycker..blob gets fearless, better than stubborn, Kharns blind rage only kills grunt not beserkers and primaris casts all your goodies.Also kharn forces you to have hatred warlord trait through him to a unit.. so giving it to 30 grunts is funny. Mini abaddon.
Why so much bling on your beserker champion..the chances of demon princing/spawning IF he makes it through to combat surely make such baggage odd? What is the basic maths on morphing? Don't get veterans of long war on high WS fearless troops.
Any points left buy another beserker..16 is fluffy.

(I changed my raptors to bikers much as LHs above when we looked at point for point breakdowns last night..but no game due to model prepping and frog crying off)

EDIT scratch all above.. your only allies of convience so can't do any of that.., meh.. take the new cheaper blobs sans poweraxes and then take a shedload of bloodletters.
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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby Ljundhammer » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:34 pm

Can't take bloodletters :(

Why so much bling on the Champion?
BECAUSE I CAN. And because it's fluffy, like the number of Chaos being 26 25 24
Mosly because won't be doing the challanges, I have Kharne. If Kharne can't kill it then he'll step up & get squished, but look good doing it.

I could drop the Commisar Lord's powerfist for another Bezerker - I think I'll do that - FOR THE FLUFF! an' all...

It's only a funny list, but I think it's "OK" until a wild Land Raider appears!

Oh, and veterans is for Hatred SM - I f***ing hate space marines.
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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby killmaimburn » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:06 pm

Ljundhammer wrote:Here we go:

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD - 1850

HQ: Chaos Lord - 185
Axe of blind fury, bolt pistol, Gift of mutation, Mark of Khorne, Juggernaught of Khorne, Sigil of corruption, Veteran of the long War

HQ: Kharn the Betrayer - 160

Troop: Bezerkers - 375 (Kharne goes here)
Champion - lightning claw, powerfist, Gift of mutation, Veteran of the long war
14 x Bezerkers - Icon of wrath, Vetarans of the long war

Troop: CSM - 100
Champion - combi plasma
4 x CSM - plasma gun

Fast: Bikers - 330 (Jugger lord goes here)
Champion - lightning claw, combi-plasma, Mark of Khorne, Melta bombs, Gift of mutation
9 x bikers - Mark of Khorne, icon of wrath, plasma gun x 2 (replace bike gun)

HQ: Lord Commissar (OF CHAOS!) - 85
Power fist

Troop: Platoon - 280
PCS - autocannon
30 man blob, 3 x flamer, 3 x power axes, krak grenades (lord commisar goes here)

35 3 flamers+MOK for 4 attacks each on the charge and counter attack=235


Troop: Platoon - 325
PCS - autocannon
30 man blob, 3 x flamer, 3 x power axe, krak grenades, commissar (OF CHAOS!) with power axe & krak grenades

35 guys shooting str 3 rapid fire +3 heavy stubber=197 (+MON T4 = 267)
Your 61 guard 690, 70 cultists one more assualty, 1 shooty= 432-- points difference 258..
Ljundhammer wrote:It's only a funny list, but I think it's "OK" until a wild Land Raider appears!

Now you have a landraider.. :lol: and can take bloodletters.

Total: 1840

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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby Ljundhammer » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:26 pm

But cultists run away at the thought of a stiff breeze. IG don't.
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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby killmaimburn » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:39 pm

Won't if you stick your lords with them.
Fearless USR is a "if any model contains rule".. so he gives all of them fearless. Thats better than stubborn cheese fluff. this is fearless cheese fluff-- all hail KOmisar Kharn!!.
(thats what I was talking about with them as allies bits last night.)
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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby Ljundhammer » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:24 pm

Too cowardly!

Kharn won't be seen with those losers. He's, like, Iggle-Piggle and they're the Pontypines - do you ever see Iggle-Piggle bring himself down to mixing with irritating & pathetic Pontypines? No, you don't, and Kharn feels the same!

Yes, my name is The Betrayer
Kharny, Warney, Warney, the Betrayer,
Yes, my name is The Betrayer
Kharny, Warney, Warney, Warney, Woo!

But in seriousness, this isn't a cultist bomb army - Kharn & Bezerkers + Bikes & Jugger = 2 threats you can't ignore. Cultists are simply extra wounds for an IC - it'll work, but it's a very different list.
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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby Stryder » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:35 pm

Just a thought but why give icon of wrath to berzerkers is it for the reroll of charge distance because they already have furious charge as standard and with the mark of khorne you have rage and counter attack which gives you an extra attack as standard
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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby Ljundhammer » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:41 pm

Yes, it's for the reroll charge distance!

I'm about 50:50 for made charge ranges in excess of 5" so far this edition!

To get the Bezerkers to do anything they need to be in combat - 15 points to near guarantee that is a steal as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby killmaimburn » Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:17 pm

Ljundhammer wrote:Too cowardly!

Kharn won't be seen with those losers. He's, like, Iggle-Piggle and they're the Pontypines - do you ever see Iggle-Piggle bring himself down to mixing with irritating & pathetic Pontypines? No, you don't, and Kharn feels the same!.
..So if they are the same... kharn and the cultists don't mind hanging out and moving forwards together in the car share ninky nonk of shared goals. :P
(Don't make me youtube.. I can find many where makkapakka is the man in the middle for the giant evil overlords)

Ljundhammer wrote:But in seriousness, this isn't a cultist bomb army -
but it is, you've got your mandatory 70 guardsmen, I just changed their uniform to fit the list better.

Ljundhammer wrote:Kharn & Bezerkers + Bikes & Jugger = 2 threats you can't ignore. Cultists are simply extra wounds for an IC - it'll work, but it's a very different list-
What does kharn bring, other than an awesome power weapon and psychic defences to one unit.. keep your jugger lord where he is, keep the beserker threat.. and then take an apostle with MOK hanging at the back making both squads fearless and 1 of them hatredy.

If you ever needz more pointz there are many to be had in the list.
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Re: Chaos throw around lists..

Postby Stryder » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:09 pm

Just had a look at my Full army list and compared to my List from 6th and considering that before i got the codex (and therefore i couldnt count the cultists) i had just over 3500 points...now i have just shy of 3500 hich shows a slight drop in points cost (and ive even added with Gift of Mutations Marks and changed one sorceror into a dark apostle) so my army lists are going to be fun to organise :D
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