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Re: Next Army Eldar or Guard Tank )

Postby Daimyo52 » Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:54 pm

And the winner is.................. Eldar

Still want to try 6 the 6 walker idea as a starting point............... have 3 ( will borrow 3 until I'm sure )

Eldrad............210 pts

6 x Warlock ( jetbikes, 4 destructor and 2 embolden ).......320 pts

Dire Avengers x 5 ( Serpent / Shuriken Cannons ).......170pts
Dire Avengers x 5 ( Serpent / Shuriken Cannons ).......170pts

5 x Fire Dragons.....80pts

3 x Walkers ( twin Scatter Laser ).....180pts
3 x Walkers ( twin Scatter Laser ).....180pts

Falcon..... ( EML / Shuriken Cannon / Stone / Hollofield )......185 pts

Total 1500 pts

Reduce the weapons on the Serpents because they should be hiiting flanks and rears..........

Seer Council................... would you give them singing spears to help in an A / T role or leave the blades for combat

How would you make these to be on Jetbikes ?

Would you swap Eldrad for 2 x farseer ( 1 on bike )
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Re: Next Army Eldar or Guard Tank )

Postby Daimyo52 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:25 pm

Nobody with suggestions on Warlock weapons and conversions........... :(
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Re: Next Army Eldar or Guard Tank )

Postby killmaimburn » Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:20 pm

It all goes spooky quiet when I'm not talking doesn't it :D
I don't know eldar...I know that standard pointy seers surfing on bikes made some people laugh and not in a very good way.

With my imperial bikes..i tend to get a standard bike (the cheapest I can whether its a box deal or a lone very generic one with no spares) make all the bottom bit (inc normal riders legs), then hack at the torso. stick some magnets in and stick the top half torso and stuff that I want on top.. then I get something that looks like I want without having to have some horrific leg thing going on.
With eldar I *guess* any errors in alignment could be fixed by gluing them together (instead of making them swappable) and then greenstuffing some kind of cloak over the botched bits.. but that will add a fair amount of time to your constuct..
If you want the painting folks to respond..you best start a new thread. I know I know I said that that was silly, but the painting folks aren't going to be looking at a thread about guard and eldar lists.
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Re: Next Army Eldar or Guard Tank )

Postby Daimyo52 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:02 pm

adjusted to add a few more troops ( but not many ) :)

Farseer............... Warding / Witnessing / Stones / Doom / Guide 145pts

Dire Avengers x 7 + Exarch with PW / Shield / Defend ( Serpent / Shuriken Cannons ).......253pts
Dire Avengers x 7 + Exarch with PW / Shield / Defend ( Serpent / Shuriken Cannons ).......253pts

5 x Fire Dragons.....( Serpent / Shuriken Cannons ).....190pts

3 x Walkers ( twin Scatter Laser ).....180pts
3 x Walkers ( twin Scatter Laser ).....180pts

Falcon..... ( Lance / Stones / Hollofield )......190 pts

Total 1391 pts spent so , without the warlocks it is missing a semi combat unit but that maybe the penalty for using 6 walkers ?
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Re: Next Army Eldar or Guard Tank )

Postby killmaimburn » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:13 pm

List looks an awful lot weaker than the one 3 posts up IMO ..
Why bling up the DA?..Does it really make them do much more?
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Re: Next Army Eldar or Guard Tank )

Postby PaddyF » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:17 pm

Drop 3 of the Walkers and put the Seer on a Bike plus some Jetlocks and it is similar to what I run most of the time.

I do not use the runes btw as having an Embolden Warlock allows you to reroll psychic tests as per the FAQ as well as other LD based tests.

If you do go for Jetbike Council drop one of the Powers for Fortune. In the past week my Seer Council has survived the 40,000 point Apoc game spending 6 rounds of combat with Nob Bikers after having 2000-3000 points of tanks shoot at it before hand and lose 1 Warlock as well as keep Ragnar, Wolf Priest, Wolf Guard and 12 Blood Claws at bay for 6-7 rounds of combat.

You could drop the Avenger units to 6, drop the Serpents and buy a second Falcon. With a Seer Council on Bikes you should be able to squeeze a unit of Guardian Bikes in as an extra scoring unit.

As for making the models I used Guardian Jet Bikes with the new Guardian torsos with heads cut off metal Warlocks and cloaks made from green stuff. I then made Singing Spears using Dark Elf Warrior spears. The Farseers were just cut at the waist and new robes green stuffed on the bike.
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Re: Next Army Eldar or Guard Tank )

Postby Daimyo52 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:40 pm

KMB

thought about making sure I had enough DA to hold objectives............ but think I went over the top

PaddyF

I really want to use the 6 walkers as its part of the main idea for this army.....................
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Re: Next Army Eldar or Guard Tank )

Postby Daimyo52 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:58 pm

Some more tweaking to add 3rd scoring unit

Farseer............ ... Warding / Witnessing / Stones / Doom / Guide 145pts

Dire Avengers x 5 ( DAVU ).......60pts
Dire Avengers x 5 ( Serpent / Shuriken Cannons / Stones ).......180pts
Dire Avengers x 5 ( Serpent / Shuriken Cannons / Stones ).......180pts

5 x Fire Dragons.....( Serpent / Shuriken Cannons / Stones ).....200pts

3 x Walkers ( twin Scatter Laser ).....180pts
3 x Walkers ( twin Scatter Laser ).....180pts

Falcon..... ( Lance / Stones / Hollofield )......190 pts

this comes to 1315 pts................. with the following possible options

1. Upgrade farseer to Eldrad to boost both Walker units and add 5 Jetbikes
2. 5 Shining Spears
3. Drop a walker and add 7 Scorpions in a Serpent
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Re: Next Army Eldar or Guard Tank )

Postby killmaimburn » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:34 pm

of the 3 options listed I prefer 1.. But I think there may be a 4 and 5 option that might be better. I'm just to crap with eldar to recomend them..grab killsiwtch :D
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Re: Next Army Eldar or Guard Tank )

Postby Daimyo52 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:16 am

This is what I have decided for starters

Farseer............ ... Warding / Stones / Fortune / Guide 140pts

Dire Avengers x 5 ( DAVU ).......60pts
Dire Avengers x 5 ( Serpent / Cannon / Catapullt / Stones / Star Engine ).......185pts
Dire Avengers x 5 ( Serpent / Cannon / Catapullt / Stones / Star Engine ).......185pts

5 x Fire Dragons.....( Serpent / Cannon / Catapult / Stones ).....190pts
5 x Fire Dragons.....( Serpent / Cannon / Catapult / Stones ).....190pts

3 x Walkers ( twin Scatter Laser ).....180pts
3 x Walkers ( twin Scatter Laser ).....180pts

Falcon..... ( Lance / Stones / Hollofield )......190 pts

For Bvigger games with drop 1 unit of dragons and a Farseer and a jetbike Seer Council

What do u think is the best " Craftworld " fit for this army ?????
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