killmaimburn wrote:Penitents are WS4, you are ws 3...

ahh, thats where i went wrong. i assumed WS3.

still, i would hope to draw the Engines away from eachother (they both have to charge closest, so if i put one unit on each side they must split up).

killmaimburn wrote:And thats whilst the other 240 points are shooting at your boys cowering at the back

well the Priest takes care of a chunk of that, and reduces shooting too (count as moving). its probably just going to be Storm Troopers with maybe a Transport. worst thing would probably be a few Plasma Guns (some of which would just have a 12" range).

if i can draw the Engines apart i can DS into the gap between them and get stuck into CC with the rest of my force.

i think i could pull it off, with a bit of luck, and maybe get a Draw. it would at least be fun to try.

~ Tim

bump, as something weird has happened and the thread has dissapeared (i think its to do with me deleting the last post...)

~ Tim
(AoS Mod)

LordMalekTheRedKnight wrote:

killmaimburn wrote:Actually i think me and ljundhammer managed to work out a way of getting 3-4 into a (baby ) CP list as its mandatory unit isn't required by CP rules etc..

hmm, i wouldnt have interepreted it that way... personally i would never consider taking Arcos/Penitent Engines without a Priest (or an Assassin w/out an Inq).

Why not? The Kill Team rules give the example that an IG Iron Fist squad can be taken without an IG platoon. The only way to get an Iron Fist squad in the IG codex is to take a platoon. Surely this is exactly the same for penitients & arcos?

Ljundhammer wrote:Why not? The Kill Team rules give the example that an IG Iron Fist squad can be taken without an IG platoon. The only way to get an Iron Fist squad in the IG codex is to take a platoon.

i took that as an "opponent's permission" type exception (its vague and leaves it up to the players to decide what is "reasonable"). when building an all-comers/pickup list, i wouldnt personally take an Armoured Fist without an Infantry Platoon (not that it really matters in 5th ed, as even dedicated Transports can have other units in them).

when i use IG in CP i usually buy a Chimera for the Infantry Platoon Command Squad (either giving them Plasma Guns and putting them in it, or hiding them at the back with a Mortar and running it empty (4th ed)).

Ljundhammer wrote:Surely this is exactly the same for penitients & arcos?

well, maybe not exactly the same - it depends on whether Penitents and Arcos are seen as units typically used to carry out patrols (which is the justification for the exception on Armoured Fists).

the CP rules dont say we can ignore every restriction by default, so i tend to play it safe. just my own personal interpretation, though.

cheers

~ Tim

Hey, Tim, have you seen this?

http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160036

Some nice ideas in there.

i hadnt actually, cheers mate!

im going to save the list and the link, and have a proper read later, but it looks good so far. especially like the tunnel entrances...

cheers

~ Tim