Login

Username:


Password:


Remember me



Forgot Password?




 Merchandise




A question about date notation in 40K

Created your own background storyline for your army? Want to discuss the 40k history?

A question about date notation in 40K

Postby Red Devil » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:28 pm

Hi all,

I hope someone can help!? How are dates written in the 40K timeline?

In Titanticus, a date of birth is written as "322.760.M41". I would take this as meaning the 322nd day of the 760th year of the 41st Millennium...

However, in the IG dex, there are dates with 7 digits before the 'M41', eg "2975999.M41" (the Battle for Tyrok Fields, in case you were wondering!). What would this date be? Which is the correct way to write a date? I only ask, because I would want to know how my date of birth would be written...
Image
User avatar
Red Devil
Veteran Sergeant
Veteran Sergeant
 
Posts: 225
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:49 am
Location: Watford, UK

Re: A question about date notation in 40K

Postby Baragash » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:07 pm

Is there an additional digit to indicate some sort of time lag in relation to the event's distance from the Solar System (which ofc would be 0 in Titanicus as it's in the Solar System)?
User avatar
Baragash
Sorceror
Sorceror
 
Posts: 1885
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:00 am
Location: London, UK
Blog: View Blog (21)

Re: A question about date notation in 40K

Postby Herne » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:14 pm

Emperors phone number? ;-)
My Gallery: http://www.ageofstrife.com/gallery/Herne

Nightbringer wrote:I like Amy Winehouse` music, although she looks like a Whippet in a bin bag.... 8)
User avatar
Herne
Occasional brush wielder
Sorceror
 
Posts: 1427
Joined: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:00 am
Location: Bromsgrove
Medals: 10
Anvil's Hammer - 1st Place (1) Gold (1) Bronze (2) Painting Entrant (6)

Re: A question about date notation in 40K

Postby timewizard » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:34 pm

Herne wrote:Emperors phone number? ;-)


But it's missing the area (or country) code.

Oh, wait, the Emperor's not in an area or a country.
"I have found again and again that in encounter actions, the day goes to the side that is the first to plaster its opponent with fire." - Erwin Rommel
User avatar
timewizard
Master of Chronomancy
Field Commander
 
Posts: 5896
Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:00 am
Location: (TWAT Colonial Outpost) in the eastern USA
Medals: 11
Gold Wreath (1) Gold (1) Silver Wreath (1) Bronze (2) Painting Entrant (6)
Blog: View Blog (2)

Re: A question about date notation in 40K

Postby Herne » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:53 pm

Ah! I've just remembered - it's not the emperors. He's ex-directory. Horus kept prank calling him too much. :D
My Gallery: http://www.ageofstrife.com/gallery/Herne

Nightbringer wrote:I like Amy Winehouse` music, although she looks like a Whippet in a bin bag.... 8)
User avatar
Herne
Occasional brush wielder
Sorceror
 
Posts: 1427
Joined: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:00 am
Location: Bromsgrove
Medals: 10
Anvil's Hammer - 1st Place (1) Gold (1) Bronze (2) Painting Entrant (6)

Re: A question about date notation in 40K

Postby Ljundhammer » Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:38 pm

When in deadly danger
When beset by doubt
Run in little circles
Wave your arms and shout
- parody of the litany of command
User avatar
Ljundhammer
Brother-Captain
Brother-Captain
 
Posts: 1563
Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:00 am
Location: Nottingham - the North

Re: A question about date notation in 40K

Postby Red Devil » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:37 pm

Thanks LH.

Interesting that Dan Abnet did not put the check number for a date of birth. Maybe this is because it is an 'undispted' event??

@Bara: the DOB was for a Princeps born on Oreste, not in Sol system??

Ok, strange that the year fraction is divided by 1000 and is not simply the day within the year...

I need a mathematician now!? What would the early hours of the 21st December be as a year fraction?

EDIT: Just been sent a link to a download on B&C that have a live running time-date converter file. Now is 971 and this time on the 21st is 974 (there is a calendar/date drop-down; makes sense that it roughly 3 per day). Should, in theory, make the early hours of the 21st 972! I might stay up and check...
Image
User avatar
Red Devil
Veteran Sergeant
Veteran Sergeant
 
Posts: 225
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:49 am
Location: Watford, UK

Re: A question about date notation in 40K

Postby lostandthedamned » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:02 pm

Red Devil wrote:Thanks LH.

Ok, strange that the year fraction is divided by 1000 and is not simply the day within the year...

This is one area where 40k actually make sense.

Firstly its been tried here before en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time.

Secondly it makes more sense when your on different planets with different orbital periods.

1 earth year is a fixed unit, decimalising it gives you a common reference frame (earth years are 365.24 days so can't be relied upon) whether your own orbital year is less than or more than earth (eg Nocturne which has an orbital period of 15 Earth years.)
Also you can't call the division days when local days might be month or more (eg Mercury - 155.88 Earth Days) or less (eg that planet from one of the Commissar Cain books which doesn't rotate and all life lives in the Twilight band between a desert sun side and an iceworld dark side.)
When you wish upon a star, your dreams can come true.
Unless it's a meteorite falling to Earth, which will destroy all life, then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for.
Unless it's death by meteorite.
User avatar
lostandthedamned
Veteran Sergeant
Veteran Sergeant
 
Posts: 390
Joined: Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:00 am

Re: A question about date notation in 40K

Postby Red Devil » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:07 am

When u put it like that... Thanks!

Well, I now know my DOB: 0974981.M2. Should make my next bit of body art look a bit more cool
Image
User avatar
Red Devil
Veteran Sergeant
Veteran Sergeant
 
Posts: 225
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:49 am
Location: Watford, UK

Re: A question about date notation in 40K

Postby WolflordHavoc » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:13 pm

IIRC the additional Digit is the source of the comms pertaining to the date - the system is used where Astropathic communication used to pass information. Due to the temporal and fluctuating time of the warp - the further a message travels the more uncertain the ultimate recipient is of its true time of sending.

So a 2 would be a message sent via 1 or 2 other Astropaths and not in the Sol System

The 3 digit 'day' stamp is actual refering to a Terrain Year / 1000 so each digit represents 7.2 earth Hours

So today would be referred to as 0.978.011.M2
Image
User avatar
WolflordHavoc
Veteran Sergeant
Veteran Sergeant
 
Posts: 300
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:00 am

Re: A question about date notation in 40K

Postby Red Devil » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:24 am

I think you mean 'M3', as we are in the third millennium??
Image
User avatar
Red Devil
Veteran Sergeant
Veteran Sergeant
 
Posts: 225
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:49 am
Location: Watford, UK

Re: A question about date notation in 40K

Postby WolflordHavoc » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:05 pm

Red Devil wrote:I think you mean 'M3', as we are in the third millennium??


Well done it is M3 - Extra Pie for you :wink:
Image
User avatar
WolflordHavoc
Veteran Sergeant
Veteran Sergeant
 
Posts: 300
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:00 am

Re: A question about date notation in 40K

Postby Red Devil » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:32 am

As long as it's not a mince pie ;)
Image
User avatar
Red Devil
Veteran Sergeant
Veteran Sergeant
 
Posts: 225
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:49 am
Location: Watford, UK




Return to 40K Background/Fluff & Black Library




 Social Links