hi im doing a speed freak army
with a red paint and six squads and +1 nob with a power klaw pr squad
with trukks+ bigmek and 1 or 2 bike sqauds for flanking

havent decided on elites but

led by Wazzdakka Gutzmek
this is what this topic is about what equipent does he pack as im getting the codex in next few days
also what points and has anything chaged from the forth

His wargear is:

Bike of the Aporkalypse
Kustom mega-blaster
Power klaw
Slugga
Mek's tools
Stikkbombs
Bosspole

I can't give out exact points values but he costs the same as 30 basic ork boyz.

are ok sorry about asking about the points and i thought he had a dakka gun and a side grot

and does he still have that rule were he can take a bike sqaud as a troop choice

Yes warbiker mobs can be taken as Troop choices.

cool cool thanks, how many biker mobs can you have as a troop choice or just a single one???

Any I think

You can make an entire Ork Biker gang.

mattjgilbert wrote:Any I think

Up to 6

timewizard wrote:

mattjgilbert wrote:Any I think

Up to 6

Well yes, "any" up to your Troop allowance

Although the more common list you'll see on tables is
Warboss- makes nobs a troops choice. Both on bikes x2=a full 1500 army.Every model is armed differently so spread wounds all over the shop so they have to take a wound each before their first casaulty (unless instant death)
It ransacked tournies a year or so back..over the last year the internet has gone a bit "old news" over them.. but they are still deadly if used right and if your opponent isn't spamming vast amounts of str8.(like I'm intending to do forever and ever and ever)

Heres an example http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthrea ... =nob+biker

If your worried wazdakka would make a good warboss biker.

are i see 1) can he take just biker boys
and
2)i didnt realise how many he could take is the rule of
as many bikes as troops as i like the same as the warboss rule with the nobz

3)can both rules be used
ect>
troops
nobz*3
bikers*3

niteterror wrote:are i see 1) can he take just biker boys
and
2)i didnt realise how many he could take is the rule of
as many bikes as troops as i like the same as the warboss rule with the nobz

3)can both rules be used
ect>
troops
nobz*3
bikers*3

That really is some unintelligible posting right there and I'm an expert on unintelligible.
1) see 3.Although basically he simply allows you to choose whether you take the unit entry "warbikers"as FA or troops, you can still do everything a normal list can.
2) I think others prefer warboss nobs, but your opinion is just as valid as anyone elses. Or if I answered that wrong..potentially (dependant on specific wording) you could have 6 in troops and 3 in fast attack each unit consisting of up to 12 models thats arguably 108 bike models(+wazdakka).Warbosses allow a single nob unit to be taken as a troops choice..so if you desired to max out you'd need 2 warbosses which allows 2 units of upto 10 nobs as a troop choice (22 bikes.. but very easily 1500 points).
3) Both rules can be used in the same list(one doesn’t prohibit the other unlike smurfs) .. but you'd need to pay the points for a seperate warboss to enact the nobs as troops..as wazdakka is just the best biker boy (He's never described as a warboss- he doesn’t unlock nobs from elites)
So you'd have a warboss biker and wazdakka.. this would allow 1 nob biker unit and FA warbikers to be taken as troops and fast attack.
Does that answer the questions you asked?

I guess the only question left is "allows X to be taken as troops" to the exclusion of their original slot, or a permission to take them in both ..(as I say codexs change their wording so frequently its actually quite a thorny topic)

bikers*3[/quote]That really is some unintelligible posting right there and I'm an expert on unintelligible.

A i read back on it and i realise how bad it was sorry about that. :p. i was in a rush but does he have a Wazzdakka Gutzmek have dakka guns still?

You do have the codex right?

Wazzdakka's bike of the apocalypse is equipped with his very own, special dakkakannon rather than a set of dakkaguns.