OK i was reading the news realeas and saw they were bringen out new troll
what im asking

i understand that the orc familys go

squigs-from trinind genes
snotlings-old brain boys
gretchin-grot slave
goblin-or hobgoblin
orcs

were do troll fit in are they related

Black orcs come after orcs

Trolls are a different species - they are not of the greenskin family.

Did you mean to put this in the 40K section?

Orcs and Orks are different creatures, you have to remember. Completely different physiology and reproductive cycles.

Grots/gretchin are interchangeable terms for the same subspecies, and are the 40k versions of goblins.

Black orcs are still orks, matt, just a mutated, magic experiment made by chaos dwarfs (IIRC)

Trolls are a separate species who often band together with orcs for mutual benefit. Like with giants too.

sure, but in terms of pecking order, black orcs are higher up

erm right so whats the pecking order in warhammer 40k

squigs/snotlings (some squigs will eat snotlings, so I've put them on the same level.)

Grots

Ork Boyz

Skarboyz

Nobz

Warboss

Warlord

Although nobz, skarboyz and warbosses/lords are still orks.

ok i see erm ive never heard of a scarboy

skarboyz are basically ork veterans. They're between a boy and a nob in size and stature, and in the old codex had normal ork stats except for S4.

While oomie veterans just get better skilled, orks veterans get better skilled, AND bigger and tuffer. Deyz da best after all.