Login

Username:


Password:


Remember me



Forgot Password?




 Merchandise




Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

News and rumours

Re: Some deamons rules rumours

Postby Baragash » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:25 am

BANE wrote:The renaming is following on fronm the move with the paints, everything that couldnt be protected by GWs IPs Trademarks Etc is getting renamed so it can be.


They are all in copyrighted publications already, that argument can't apply here. Besides which "blood sword" would almost certainly fail the generic term test, "bloodsword" might not though I have a feeling that a pair of authors used that as the name for their "not-lightsabers" for their "not-jedi" in a set of novels they wrote 20-odd years ago anyway - the point being without seeing the exact spelling GW used it's impossible to draw that conclusion.

Plague Drones look terrible* and the cannon of Khorne kit isn't working for me either.

*I actually don't mind the drones as such but much like the Mournfang Cavalry the rider and mount element just look forced together.
My Hobby Blog!
My Painting & Modelling Blog!
Gallery
"The Emperor is obviously not a dictator, he's a couch."
Starbuck: "Why can't we use the starboard launch bays?"
Engineer: "Because it's a gift shop!"
User avatar
Baragash
Sorceror
Sorceror
 
Posts: 1884
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:00 am
Location: London, UK
Blog: View Blog (21)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours

Postby killmaimburn » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:48 am

Baragash wrote:*I actually don't mind the drones as such but much like the Mournfang Cavalry the rider and mount element just look forced together.

Entirely,
Quite like the flies, but why wolves riding wolves riding..
a) The model doesn't sit well
b) the Yo dog I put a plague in your plague so you can plague while you plague was old before it began.
c).. Nurgle steeds don't work biologically.. Every time in stories you hear about him blessing things with mumra the ever living corpulance tonnes of fat, or mumm-ra the ever ..oh hang on my arm fell off. I imagine half nurgle riders have to pass a test when they swing their leg over their mount to check their leg didn't just melt off.
The palanguin (whilst not pretty) is at least vaguely plausible..Personally I think if nurgle are being transported by something else it should be in a hospital bed/soup vat/burger van/living ooze carpet.(thats why the demon codex v0.8 had no FA nurgle)

Meh i read alot of hate on the khorne stuff over the web I don't think its terribad.
Barely even lurking..
ruffian4 wrote:Handy fellow, this kmb...Like Ahriman delving the paths of the webway ...
World of ME First try at Apoc Batrep WHAT/WHO is AOS?
User avatar
killmaimburn
Now Vanus Clade
 
Posts: 6581
Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:00 am
Location: Nottingham, mid-land
Blog: View Blog (1)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby KInG » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:08 pm

Wd just landed. Totally uninspired by the models. No new bloodthirster. I think I maybe dropping this army. Looks like anngarth will only appear as an ally to my imperial guard now. Lol
www.GamingFigures.com & http://www.AgeofStrife.com 15% off GW models 10% off FoW & GF9 - extra 1% off orders £100+ & 2% off orders £250+ with FREE UK SHIPPING now added
AoS_GF moderator
Image
User avatar
KInG
Archon
Archon
 
Posts: 5209
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:00 am
Medals: 2
Painting Entrant (2)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby KInG » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:18 pm

Yeh, flying burgle drones.. What's slow and purposeful about that... Even slow and purposeful doesn't slow you down now..
www.GamingFigures.com & http://www.AgeofStrife.com 15% off GW models 10% off FoW & GF9 - extra 1% off orders £100+ & 2% off orders £250+ with FREE UK SHIPPING now added
AoS_GF moderator
Image
User avatar
KInG
Archon
Archon
 
Posts: 5209
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:00 am
Medals: 2
Painting Entrant (2)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby KInG » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:23 pm

Also noticed on page 61 of white dwarf there seems to be some nurgle blobs, and page 70. So maybe there's more new models to follow and maybe the thirster???
www.GamingFigures.com & http://www.AgeofStrife.com 15% off GW models 10% off FoW & GF9 - extra 1% off orders £100+ & 2% off orders £250+ with FREE UK SHIPPING now added
AoS_GF moderator
Image
User avatar
KInG
Archon
Archon
 
Posts: 5209
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:00 am
Medals: 2
Painting Entrant (2)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby Ljundhammer » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:43 pm

I think you're labouring under the misapprehension that anyone here who doesn't get WD for free actually reads it...

However, I can exlusively reveal that I'm fully 'meh' about 40k, especially new releases, until another couple of codexes have come & gone. I don't understand where it's going at the moment. Thankfully I have a few armies I can work on until that happens.
When in deadly danger
When beset by doubt
Run in little circles
Wave your arms and shout
- parody of the litany of command
User avatar
Ljundhammer
Brother-Captain
Brother-Captain
 
Posts: 1563
Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:00 am
Location: Nottingham - the North

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby killmaimburn » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:03 pm

KInG wrote:. So maybe there's more new models to follow and maybe the thirster???
Oh there will be more, its just how long until they hit the shelves, the plastic demon prince was first shown in the apocolypose book but took a while to hit..
also established "waves" of releases..where some new units don't have models for... (oh some codexs still waiting :lol: :lol: )
@LH sad news brah.. We gotsta to get you out your safe zone with some DE/nids/Wolves/Chaos etc 8) Mr 6 will be here next tuesday if you want to take the next tep in his retuition (I swear I'm building him a dice tower "3 5s 2 6s". he rolls 3x5 2x6.
Barely even lurking..
ruffian4 wrote:Handy fellow, this kmb...Like Ahriman delving the paths of the webway ...
World of ME First try at Apoc Batrep WHAT/WHO is AOS?
User avatar
killmaimburn
Now Vanus Clade
 
Posts: 6581
Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:00 am
Location: Nottingham, mid-land
Blog: View Blog (1)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby Baragash » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:31 pm

I think you'll find the speed of the 2nd wave directly proportional to the success of the first wave. Low success = they'll hold it off for as long as possible whilst they try and sell more popular stuff.
My Hobby Blog!
My Painting & Modelling Blog!
Gallery
"The Emperor is obviously not a dictator, he's a couch."
Starbuck: "Why can't we use the starboard launch bays?"
Engineer: "Because it's a gift shop!"
User avatar
Baragash
Sorceror
Sorceror
 
Posts: 1884
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:00 am
Location: London, UK
Blog: View Blog (21)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby killmaimburn » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:11 pm

Demon stuff starting to materialise..
http://blog.spikeybits.com/2013/02/daem ... rt-ii.html
IMo..6th ed softness carries on (hope they balance it by hitting crons and the other imperials rather than backing down after this.)

Some balancing IS required.. took 1500 fateweaver, screamers plaguebearers horrors and flamers +sorceror cultists against a strong necron list last night, I lost sorceror cultists and one screamer squad beneath half strentgh, he just had two nightscythes left when he called it.
Barely even lurking..
ruffian4 wrote:Handy fellow, this kmb...Like Ahriman delving the paths of the webway ...
World of ME First try at Apoc Batrep WHAT/WHO is AOS?
User avatar
killmaimburn
Now Vanus Clade
 
Posts: 6581
Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:00 am
Location: Nottingham, mid-land
Blog: View Blog (1)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby Baragash » Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:53 pm

In the context of the fact that I strongly dislike 6th Ed, I think this is a decent Codex.

I've just bought it and skimmed it (as such, if I got something wrong, my bad).

Things that suck
Drop in Letter & Bearer T - given that Marines find them hard-going in the fluff the previous T values seemed appropriate, T3 5+ is pony in Fantasy where people aren't shooting you with Boltguns
The Warpstorm table
Rewards being random (I know there's a default, this mechanism is &^%* for Spells, &^%* for Psychic Powers and &^%* for rewards, get over it already GW)
The Masque
"true" Psychic Powers - I don't object to this in principle, but they should have changed Psychic Hoods et al to cost a Warp Charge to use so you can overwhelm the enemy instead of some dude sitting there with a 24" exclusion zone, but Speese Mahreens
Chariots - though that is a 6th Ed/main rules issue, Daemons just suffer from having several of them
No fliers. Seriously? Seriously?? SERIOUSLY??!! Dammit GW with your £££ chasing cynicism you couldn't crowbar the Helldrake with unbroken rules in here?!
Should have made the named Heralds W3 to give a "captain-equivalent" HQ, it jumps from W2 glass cannons to Daemon Princes with Karanak as the only real bridge (you can mount Khorne or Nurgle Heralds to get more W) - Skulltaker particularly suffers as Mr Uber-challenge is fairly pussy
The Double 1/Double 6 results on Daemonic Instability
Want to hurt flyers? Soulgrinder or Vector-striking with BT/DP/LoC only
Throne of Khorne.....just what?
Lord of Change only gets 2 rulebook disciplines....Speese Mahreens
Goddamn where's my Slaanesh GD special character?!
Warpflame
Formatting on Melee Weapons - do they need "range", can we drop this column so the "Type" field isn't 2 miles long?
Taking a GD pushes DPs of the same God to Heavy Support...WTF? So mono-god gets humped on trying to include Skyfire? This...I....just?!
The Hellflayer (especially in comparison to a normal Chariot) - I just don't get it, why does the rolling pin of doom not have a material difference?
Can haz more Daemon Engine type stuff plox?

Things I like
Daemonic Alignment
Daemonic Instability as a means to not have an entirely unbreakable army (subject to complaint above)
Greater Daemons now have appropriate stats IMO
Deep Strike entirely optional
Blue Horrors
Beasts of Nurgle counter-charge
Fiends Soporific Musk
Loci
Icons and maybe Instruments now worth taking
Heavy & Fast sections worth a damn at last

I know the first list is longer, but I actually overall like this Codex, it's the first product outside of FW in a long, long, long time that I've actually picked up and felt reasonably enthusiastic about - shame about 6th and the Warp Storm table.

Not about to go throwing any money about but got enough old metals and stuff I can probably throw a 1k army together.
My Hobby Blog!
My Painting & Modelling Blog!
Gallery
"The Emperor is obviously not a dictator, he's a couch."
Starbuck: "Why can't we use the starboard launch bays?"
Engineer: "Because it's a gift shop!"
User avatar
Baragash
Sorceror
Sorceror
 
Posts: 1884
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:00 am
Location: London, UK
Blog: View Blog (21)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby killmaimburn » Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:35 pm

Baragash wrote:The Warpstorm table
Its the THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CHAOS DEMONS UNDIVIDED finger write in font size 50.. hnnngggh
Baragash wrote:Blue Horrors
I still don't get them, they are psychers, they generate from the table (each turn?), their spells can be stopped now by deny the witch, but you can ally in some divination (to get their BS in effect up), they drop down to leadership7 but have a special rule that makes them leadership 10 when casting spells..They've lost their 4++ but instead reroll 1s (which is slightly better??inc cover +reroll 1) and you get a tonne more models for 90 points but no min max bolt of change fire platforms..You must take 1 more horror, to unlock the extra D6 attacks to make it worthwhile and any number above that is rubbish?? (basically to make sure everyone buys 40 horrors rather than 10).
Codex is weird..its going to take a lot of time for me to actually work out what got better and worse..(I mean there are some obvious' but some are just sooo tweaked)

Epi and fateweaver nolonger greater for CSM, tzeentch herald mass shooty silly glasshammer viable.
Edit on taking out flyers.. plaguebearers sat behind an aegis mutliple stacked cover +quad gun.
Barely even lurking..
ruffian4 wrote:Handy fellow, this kmb...Like Ahriman delving the paths of the webway ...
World of ME First try at Apoc Batrep WHAT/WHO is AOS?
User avatar
killmaimburn
Now Vanus Clade
 
Posts: 6581
Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:00 am
Location: Nottingham, mid-land
Blog: View Blog (1)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby Baragash » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:29 pm

Blue Horrors is something else ;)

The casting spells/Ld thing makes sense - Ld 7 makes them X amount vulnerable to instability, but the casting bonus makes them not pants at casting, I can actually respect that mechanic.

Sure, but terrain should not be the get-out clause against flyres. Granted I can see the douchebag £££ move on doing that, but it needs to cater for players that want more of the capability within their actual force and also don't want to carry a load of stuff round.
My Hobby Blog!
My Painting & Modelling Blog!
Gallery
"The Emperor is obviously not a dictator, he's a couch."
Starbuck: "Why can't we use the starboard launch bays?"
Engineer: "Because it's a gift shop!"
User avatar
Baragash
Sorceror
Sorceror
 
Posts: 1884
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:00 am
Location: London, UK
Blog: View Blog (21)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby killmaimburn » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:53 pm

Truth be told my biggest gripe is both chaos books are out now and not one with of Classification "conjuration" type powers(has a whole chunk of rules in BRB).. obviously the home automation in windows 95 of 6th ed..
Barely even lurking..
ruffian4 wrote:Handy fellow, this kmb...Like Ahriman delving the paths of the webway ...
World of ME First try at Apoc Batrep WHAT/WHO is AOS?
User avatar
killmaimburn
Now Vanus Clade
 
Posts: 6581
Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:00 am
Location: Nottingham, mid-land
Blog: View Blog (1)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby Baragash » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:56 pm

It's because they aren't Space Marines. You know when Chaos throw their attack bikes and assault cannons away they mind scrub half their psychic powers too ;)
My Hobby Blog!
My Painting & Modelling Blog!
Gallery
"The Emperor is obviously not a dictator, he's a couch."
Starbuck: "Why can't we use the starboard launch bays?"
Engineer: "Because it's a gift shop!"
User avatar
Baragash
Sorceror
Sorceror
 
Posts: 1884
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:00 am
Location: London, UK
Blog: View Blog (21)

Re: Some deamons rules rumours (pics added KMB)

Postby KInG » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:18 pm

Ljundhammer wrote:I think you're labouring under the misapprehension that anyone here who doesn't get WD for free actually reads it...

However, I can exlusively reveal that I'm fully 'meh' about 40k, especially new releases, until another couple of codexes have come & gone. I don't understand where it's going at the moment. Thankfully I have a few armies I can work on until that happens.

Agreed. This daemon codex ain't doing it for me. But I've only read 25% of options, the khorne bits basically.

If I can't make a list from that then it ain't happening. :(
www.GamingFigures.com & http://www.AgeofStrife.com 15% off GW models 10% off FoW & GF9 - extra 1% off orders £100+ & 2% off orders £250+ with FREE UK SHIPPING now added
AoS_GF moderator
Image
User avatar
KInG
Archon
Archon
 
Posts: 5209
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:00 am
Medals: 2
Painting Entrant (2)

PreviousNext



Return to 40K News & Rumours




 Social Links