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Re: Space Marine

Postby killmaimburn » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:35 pm

whilst I appreciate your post, both times. and I understand that certain things require specific manual updates, I thought ebooks(as in publishing) was a technology transfer issue, so would still be covered by the fundamentals of does it cause confusion, does holder suffer loss. (just like piracy of cds(not like pirating dvds which was a whole cia crazy thing))
I welcome set precedent that it requires manual transfer... as I say I'm well crusty at this.
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Re: Space Marine

Postby Darklighter » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:46 pm

Baragash wrote:
Darklighter wrote:They HAVE a trade mark on the phrase "space marine" and have done for many years (since second edition) they have every right to deffend that. If any one has a problem it should be with what people are allowed to trade mark not that a company is implimenting the law correctly.


I love how people keep writing this without bothering to research or understand that trademarks only apply in the area they are registered, GW does not have a registered trademark for Space Marine in ebooks anywhere and only has it for physical books in mainland Europe.

So no, they don't have a right to defend it because they don't have it.


The BBC report beggs to differ and with out looking at the terms of thier IP Registration or looking at the Nice classification on which it's filed under it's impossible for you to presume they havn't filed an overseas application.
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Re: Space Marine

Postby BANE » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:06 pm

@ Bara, I did read your post, what i was pointing out is that GW were succusful in gaining a TM on the subject despite it been used previously by others.

Also the masses of research you have clearly done on the subject???? you seem to have missed the fact that GW have held a US TM on the use of Space Marine since 1991. The only gray area is if the TM which was on books and games auto covers ebooks when GW moved into that field.
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Re: Space Marine

Postby killmaimburn » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:24 pm

Whilst still intrigued by above.
Author is not following the advice of STFU ---
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/m ... ree-speech
Intrigued by whether tha means its now a game of chicken or if GW just got pwnd.
For those only able to view this site, for whatever reason.
I'm M.C.A. Hogarth and I'd like to tell you how the EFF helped protect my work and the idea of a "space marine" from a shameless legal bully.

I wrote a web serial called Spots the Space Marine as an homage to Heinlein and the greats of science fiction. Crowdfunding allowed me to launch print and e-book editions that I made available on Amazon... until a trademark threat from Games Workshop over the term "space marine" caused Amazon to remove the ebook from its virtual shelves.

I made an honest effort to find out what it would take to fight the legal battle. Even more than wanting to save Spots the Space Marine, I wanted to save all space marines for the genre I grew up reading. I wanted there to be a world where Heinlein and E.E. Smith's space marines could live alongside mine and everyone else's. No one should have the hubris to think that they can own a fundamental genre trope and deny it to everyone else.

But that legal fight would have cost a lot of money -- money I didn't have. I shared my story, put out a call for support, and the lawyers at EFF answered the call.

Spots is now available on Amazon again, and I have the justice-seeking community of the Internet to thank for rallying behind me and the idea that anyone should be free to write a story about space marines or any other common term.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/t ... ack-online
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http://www.jamesfarr.com/trains-formers-5-2/
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Re: Space Marine

Postby BANE » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:45 pm

I reckon GW will now escalate this, then we will see if the have an american TM!
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