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For KMB - CSM warbands 6th Ed

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For KMB - CSM warbands 6th Ed

Postby Baragash » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:30 am

It's not really for KMB, but I know he feels starved of 6th Ed discussion and I probably won't get to look at this again this week :wink:

So thoughts (ordar and logic need not apply)...
  • Challenge rules/Boon Table is out for now. Chaos forced challenge rules make no sense as is and I'm thinking of bastardising the 2nd ed Daemon Summoning rules as a way to generate rolls on the Boon Table, needs some thought though as the obvious things favour Nurgle heavily (as stuff dying happens more than other things), so we'll see.
  • Stuff in red either hasn't been edited from the 5th Ed template or needs cost-checking (5th Ed version had special/heavy weapons costed in line with the SM Codex with free flamers and such, but this has been reversed out in 6th Ed DA and I am working to the assumption that's true for SM).
  • range of options unlocked depending on a) specific warband b) being Legion or renegade c) diety of worship
  • Super-sneaky Alpha Legion variant may or may not be broken, or under-costed, or a no-brainer.
  • Yes, non-Legions open with ATSKNF. Two reasons, firstly CSM get shafted by morale quite badly, secondly, trying to make up an alternative rule for ATSKNF/VotLW to sub in over the top of proved difficult and unnecessary. Yes, you are reading it right, going Legion moves Hatred from one to the other, but ATSKNF > Stubborn + Hatred (and at least I reversed out the +1Ld so as not to take the pee).
  • Mark of CU is back.
  • I've just realised The Purge have and error, the first line should be The Face of Chaos: Hatred everyone. (OMG c&p error... at least I don't employ a professional proof-reader :wink: )
  • MoK changed. Because Berzerkers.
  • Daemon Weapon rule is slightly different.
  • Champions non-compulsory like DA and SM.
  • No armoury because it's inconvenient IMO, easier to have unit options with the unit.
  • Black Legion won't be getting Chosen troops - Chaos Lord will have optional upgrade to Chosen of Abaddon (Chapter Master equivalent) - 4W/A, Chosen troops, orbital bombardment (effect themed to Mark)
  • Chaos Lord equip will allow FOC moves: Doombringer = Termies; Huntsmaster = Bikes; Talonmaster = Raptors.
  • Not sure if Icons will stay, may just be Teleport Homer effect. Main sticking point is Khorne as Icon of Wrath would have no effect on Berzerkers (have considered adding Rampage, but currently have ideas for additional Nurgle & Slaanesh warband which makes Rampage prime candidate for an additional Khorne one (Ravagers from Ciphas Cain novels), although The Sanctified could be Khorne one which might make an interesting option

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Re: For KMB - CSM warbands 6th Ed

Postby killmaimburn » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:11 am

Baragash wrote:It's not really for KMB, but I know he feels starved of 6th Ed discussion

just for clarity, its all gaming.. its nice that cain copypast'd his malifaux batrep over, and talus wrote a story rep.. but look at the forums prior to my super grump back.

For all the mantic threads in its forum on selling stuff.. no one appears to have actually played a game or wrote anything about it(other than to sell) in well over a year*- same across the board.. Flames of war "its so cheap" is all anyone says about it.. its had one thread of "what about mixed russians"and thats it in 3 years.

(* exception northern lot publish league table results in house on blog bit of not deathball)
So yes.. desperate for a gaming site to talk about gaming, otherwise ponder the big ole why?? :roll: :wink:

I've downloaded it, but i'm vanishing for a week or so (back when digested).
Barely even lurking..
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Re: For KMB - CSM warbands 6th Ed

Postby Baragash » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:20 am

I am guilty of not making enough effort to game at the moment. I will take this on board tonight and stick my head in the club on the way home and see what games are being played (ofc if the answer is still basically WHF, 40k, Necromunda this is not helpful!).

When 8th Ed WHF came out I did some bat reps (on another site) but they actually take a lot of time to write up I find, at some point in a gaming situation far, far away I think videoing and just cutting out rulebook searches etc is the way forward.
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