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Can't find the topic here....

Where do we stand on Counter-attack?

I'm of the opinion that

1. you strictly gain +1 attack only and no other charging-related bonuses or things that substitute for the +1 attack
2. Whilst you test to see if you keep this attack against other rules that would apply (see 3) if you had assaulted, you haven't actually assaulted
3. Defensive grenades and other things that apply specifically when the enemy unit is receiving a charge aren't "rules that apply" for the purposes of 2 above

Thoughts?

Are u asking if the counter attack is negated by things that don't allow any assaulting bonus, "-1 attack, exactly as if armed with blite grenades"... ?

I would say no. As I read it, counter attack is a response to being charged. Yes, it does say "+1 attack, exactly like if they had charged", but that doesn't say that they count as charging.

We did have something around july here bit tricky to find unless you use the keyword "blight" Jubelex as always ahead of any problems..trying john mclane (2min43 onwards)to try to help everyone to avoid it
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3524&hilit=blight.

killmaimburn wrote:Jubelex as always ahead of any problems..trying john mclane (2min43 onwards)to try to help everyone to avoid it

"De plane boss, de plane!"



Actually, thinking back, the eldar faq for falling back units, into the sphere of avatar fearlessness, would help out a fair bit.

You know, this KMB fellow (aka, to me, Mr Linky ), has a terrifyingly good memory of stuff to refer back to.
He's like a dwarf with a book of grudges, except that his is a tome of relevance.

Counter Attack special rule only applies if you are charged. (Space Wolves)
And it confers the +1 bonus for charging in addition to normal bonuses ( I assume you know what I mean by those)
In the case of Blood Claws, they get the +2.
It has been in an errata/FAQ somewhere.. I think

Actually, Blood Claw rules specifically say they don't get +2.

ruffian4 wrote:

killmaimburn wrote:Jubelex as always ahead of any problems..trying john mclane (2min43 onwards)to try to help everyone to avoid it

"De plane boss, de plane!"



Actually, thinking back, the eldar faq for falling back units, into the sphere of avatar fearlessness, would help out a fair bit.

You know, this KMB fellow (aka, to me, Mr Linky ), has a terrifyingly good memory of stuff to refer back to.
He's like a dwarf with a book of grudges, except that his is a tome of relevance.

lol mr linky

yes he does haave a goood memory tho

Baragash wrote:Actually, Blood Claw rules specifically say they don't get +2.

That's changed then since 5th update .. Not really had the time to read it yet.. RL stuff kinda dumping on my time.