Ljundhammer wrote:Can GoI be used to teleport out of a vehicle?
Bumstink.
Ljundhammer wrote:Does it make a difference if its a rhino (with a firing port) or a razorback/Land Raider (without a firing port)?
No, its nothing to do with shooting.
Ljundhammer wrote:Ruffian on/off the board rant
rant on > I never rant about anything! < rant off.
Why shoud/n't you?
You have a librarian and a unit that you can measure to = yes.
You don't have a librarian and/or a unit to remove from the tabletop = no.
Do you have to have two models on the table to measure the distance between them? Not according to some faq answers.
Can an embarked model, be considered in b2b with its transport? Don't know, don't think so, but is an ability that requires this workable in this situation = yes.
I think TW may come along and mention transports and casualties and how passengers may be considered on table for that circumstance.
That's fine.
But, it only underlines the huge discrepancies that exist and it's the reason for questions being asked about all sorts of stuff for transported units/models.
If they are for this, are they for that (which is exactly where we are with this stuff).
I can't fault Matts logic re casting powers while in a transport.
I can attack it in a wider sense, by asking if the unit fulfills the goi requirements if its in a transport.
Is a unit in a wave serpent fearless if the serpent is within 12" of an avatar?
Does it matter?
Hammer of the witches.
Can I prove which psycher is nearest and which are further away, if they are passengers? = yes (assuming that this ability "involves" the embarked unit, which, if it effects even 1 model in it, I assume it does).
At this point, am I really measuring to a unit, or a model?
How many psychers are on the table?
If the psychers are on the table, are they on the tabletop?
Are on the table and on the tabletop the same?
Is something on the table, at a higher elevation to something else, on the tabletop, or just on the table or both?
If I use the old deldar dex and pass over an occupied transport, will my slave snares inflict hits?
If not, why not?
Does the powers description, that requires a unit to be "removed from the tabletop" prevent a unit that is not on the table being removed?
Does it matter?
Up to you really.
If you want any kind of consistency and to follow
RAW, you can't.
If you accept the inconsistencies are endemic within the transport rules and are willing to ignore "remove" and apply on the table(top) to passengers, then you can.
If you accept that passengers are on the table, then everything that effects units within a bubble, that requires model/unit proximity will work ... but it doesn't according to multi-faqs and GAP.
GOOD LUCK!