killmaimburn wrote:You should probably read up on the Doom of Malan'Tai and spirit leach.
Being familiar with the arguments will mean you have a stronger standing against any arse who tries it against you when you call the judge over.
Agree - this is the biggest bone of contention at the moment; If you read as
RAW, it can be very nasty.
Last night, Sam asked for a Tournament practice game of my Tyranids vs his Blood Angels (
PDF Codex); the Doom was in a Mycetic Spore and dropped in 6" from 2 units (5 Assault Marines and 10 Tactical Marines in Rhino), the leech failed to hurt the Assault Marines he threw 8 for
Ld, but the Tactical lost 5 models as he threw 14 on the dice.
We then had a debate about all the things stated in the other threads.
Can it affect units in vehicles as they are not on the table? My Answer: Yes
Do they get a Cover Save from being within the vehicle? My Answer: No
Does the Unit take a Break Test for 25% casualties? My Answer: No
In the following Blood Angel turn, the Assault Marines shot and
CC the Doom doing 1 wound damage (3+ Invul Saves made). Next Tyranid Shooting Phase - the Leech then kills 4 Assault Marines and the final one in combat.
Then went into combat against the Tactical Squad - at which point I forgot to use the Leech ability till Turn 7 to wipe them out (Tyranid Players needs to remember that Leech must go off at the start of the Shooting Phase - I got so excited about using the Trygons that I forgot).
So if I was going to the Tournament with Tyranids, top things that I would take:
[*]Doom in a Mycetic Spore
[*]Trygon or two (maybe up 1 to Prime)
[*]A pair of Zoanthropes in Mycetic Spore
[*]Tervigon to spawn those objective grabbers
[*]And if points available Swarmlord with 2 Tyrant Guard
Units I don't expect to see:
[*]Gargolyes - take up too much space
[*]Carnifexes - with Armour 3+ and less wounds than a Trygon, why bother
[*]Genestealer rush - anything less than a 16 strong Brood will win 1 fight and then die to shooting or counter attack
[*]Tyranid Warriors - unless you are going with lots and lots, they die too easily to Str8+ instant kill
[*]Winged Tyrant - too expensive for what it can kill