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Trying a new Chaos List 1500

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Trying a new Chaos List 1500

Postby OWCriminal » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:41 am

Guys,

I have been playing "Black Legion" for a year or so and have yet to come up with a balanced list, when I say balanced, I mean something that doesn't smell of Wensleydale or affect my shaving routine!

I could take the double lash, multi Oblit squads, but having been on the receiving end and dealt it myself I just didn't enjoy either experience.

So to the drawing board, I like assault armies, so figured the following

DP with Sorceror, wings, Doombolt and Warptime 185

Kharn the Betrayer 165

Greater Demon 100

9 Berzerkers with Skull champion with PW and Melta bomb 224

6 Plague Marine, Champ with PW and 2 Plasmas in squad 198

10 Black Legion in Rhino with Asp Champ and 2 Flamers, Chaos Gl. 235

2 Obliterators 150

Landraider with Daemonic possession. 240

Total 1497

How does this look? I hope it's more balanced although I still have two of the large nasty Monster in it! :evil:
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Re: Trying a new Chaos List 1500

Postby OWCriminal » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:43 am

I forgot to add, the only Special Character I haven't used with the Black Legion is Lucius and Ahriman, I have tried all the others! Thought they were all pants apart from Abaddon of course!!
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Re: Trying a new Chaos List 1500

Postby killmaimburn » Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:32 pm

OWCriminal wrote:DP with Sorceror, wings, Doombolt and Warptime 185
Took me so long to work out "with Sorceror"= MOT, I was working backwards trying to work out if you paid the old sorceror upgrade thing.

You've gone for the 729 points in a basket set up. I'm generally not a fan.Even with those redundancies on the midfield
Heck its even more expensive than the (arguably better?) Abaddon+zerkers inc hidden fist in possessed raider (although only by 6 points :lol:)

Remember to always have killy mcstabby-hisownmenicus come out of a different door and pick a different fight (or prepare to loose beserkers)
I agree on HQs, about the only other named char (other than those mentioned above) I've heard any good about is typhus and I only believe some of the stuff about him (the others I tried are poopy)...Someone on warseer this morning was trying to say ahriman was still good post FAQ.. :roll:
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Drop 1 beserker.
Combi melta on the landraider- You'll be up close and personal with their own mobile av14.Its top attached so can always see.And if he gets a weapon destroyed..he has to take it rather than a lascannon.. just in case.
either powerfist on PM or combi flamer on either rhino of flamer squad or on its champion -(preferred) (for a 3 flamer barbeque..to kill off a boyz squad)
But..KMB you just don't get it.. I have a greater demon instead of a fist. I do-(i loved the 6man melta +GD setup when the codex came out) but he can only come down the once, possibly before your opponents killer stuff is on the table(with everone and their goat playing the reserves game and storm raven delivering dreadnoughts late in the game where you don't want it) . Having a back up, for half a beserker.. and still being able to go everywhere= breathing space on reserves dice.
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Re: Trying a new Chaos List 1500

Postby OWCriminal » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:52 pm

Kill,

Thanks for the feedback, the only reason for not tooling any of the champions too much is to avoid the tears when the cost of the GD becomes even more exspensive.

Sorry about the "sorceror" comment, didn't think!

What is a KMB???
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Re: Trying a new Chaos List 1500

Postby killmaimburn » Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:01 pm

Its is me myself and I.. being rhetorical, (verging on patronising..sorry about that :D)
Killy Mcstabby is kharn (not me, unless its april)
Half hearted champs aren't much.. what will an int 3 str 4 powersword do to save that squad? Naked champs and then back ups that make you squeek are where its at.. Try it :D
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Re: Trying a new Chaos List 1500

Postby Herne » Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:31 pm

My own blacklegion list is thus:

HQ: Abbadon - who else....

Elite: 6 terminators, mark of slaanesh, 3 x L. Claws, 1 x Combi Melta (Put abbadon with these and NOone wants to fight em. Deepstrike at a suitable location off icons and march up for a fight.

Elite: Dreadnought - they're just too much fun - even with the stoopid kill your own guys on a 1 rule!

Troops:
2 x 10 Black Legion Chaos Marines in Rhino, undivided Icon, Plasma gun, Sgt with PW
2 x 10 demons - Cheap, inv save and safely summoned rather than walking into guns - these are much unappreciated by many players. They also hold objectives well in cover.

Fast:
Sometimes take raptors if points will allow

Hvy:
2 x oblits - separate or in team depending on game

It's a good lsit as the termie hard-core are a fearsome thing to fight and if delivered right can avoid that turn of 'well done for deepstriking before my guns' and dying. The oblits deepstrike nicely later in the game for rear armour shots and close killy multi plasma doom. The demons can re-inforce whichever squad is having a panic. The only drawback of the lsit i've found playing it in several games is that often more troops would be better - perhaps a 3rd unit of marines.
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Re: Trying a new Chaos List 1500

Postby Daimyo52 » Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:17 pm

P personallyy having tried EA and DP on the land riader i now take EA as the extra BS on the LC's is better.

My list is the standard filth list

2 Lash princes with wings

6 Plague Marines with 2 flamers in a rhino
7 Plague Marines with 2 melta's oin a rhino
7 Zerks + PF Champ ( go in LR )

2 x 2 Obliterators

Landraider with extra armour.......

( I smell gorgonzola ) :oops:

Had thought about a 1750 Tourney list that was all Khorne

Kharne
3 x 7 Zerks with PF champs ( as above )
3 x Landraider with EA
5 Khorne Termies ( 4 claws plus 1 chanifist )
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Re: Trying a new Chaos List 1500

Postby OWCriminal » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:57 pm

Herne wrote:


Elite: 6 terminators, mark of slaanesh, 3 x L. Claws, 1 x Combi Melta (Put abbadon with these and NOone wants to fight em. Deepstrike at a suitable location off icons and march up for a fight.


I thought that only the demons come in on icons!!! Sheesh, what a numbnut! Still can't assault though......although I do have 6 slaanesh Termies with the Term Champ having the twin L.Claws, 2 combi meltas, 2 chain fists, so the Abaddon character may be the way to go in the end!
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Re: Trying a new Chaos List 1500

Postby OWCriminal » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:03 pm

And Daimyo...you're right....that is pure filth with the twin lash...I fought practically the same list at Bristol Vanquish last weekend. The guy was a great player as well, took me apart nicely! :oops:

I have to say that I look at the Khorne Zerkers and having never used them much before, kinda like the look of them now!

Should I drop the LR then and concentrate on the Demons?
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Re: Trying a new Chaos List 1500

Postby Herne » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:35 pm

OWCriminal wrote:Should I drop the LR then and concentrate on the Demons?


Depends really - I find that it all depends on my game plan. Demons aren't the best unit in the book - but they are the one of the cheapest. Try a few games with them. Other people will say the LR is far better with termies as they aren't taking the one turn wait after deepstrike or the risk of not getting the deepstrike roll the turn you want. Both ways offer benefits and weaknesses. One list I have used is the 'twin spear' list. 2 x LR, 2 x termie units - one Nurgle, 1 Khorne, with 2 chaos lords or even Typhus. Loadsa points but it packs a helluva punch, unless your opponent has a dedicated anti armour list.
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Re: Trying a new Chaos List 1500

Postby OWCriminal » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:52 pm

Herne, much appreciated mate, I will go back to the demons again, I tried them but felt they were just a little too vulnerable, but your right, they're cheap.

The 2 LR's is just too rude!
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