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Postby harbo1993mark2 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:14 am

what are peoples opinion on these, as i have been looking at them but dont know how good there are for painting 40k tanks troops and scenery and wondered if anyone can help
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Re: airbrush

Postby KInG » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:49 am

great, but you need a compressor also with an airbrush, incase you didn't know ;)
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Re: airbrush

Postby Jay » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:55 am

Couldn't live without mine now. A good starter brush is either a badger krome renegade or iwata hp cs
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Re: airbrush

Postby berger15 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:20 pm

I love using mine for tanks (Flames of War mainly), but I'm not yet good enough for painting figures! Definitley need a compressor. Can pick one up with a tank for about £50 on £bay.
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Re: airbrush

Postby harbo1993mark2 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:50 pm

will now have a look at useing them on models on youtube and get myself one thanks for the help
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Re: airbrush

Postby Jay » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:45 pm

People rave about the Neo Air compressor but it's not for prelonged use.
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Re: airbrush

Postby berger15 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:36 pm

My compressor is nothing branded as far as I know. I looked at the Neos, but they looked to be very small, and seemed pricey.
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Re: airbrush

Postby _stu_ » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:45 pm

My original kit was about 70 quid from ebay for a compressor and single action airbrush. One thing I would definitely recommend tho is getting a compressor with a storage cylinder. I don't have one on mine, and if I'm spraying at lowish pressure it runs pretty much constantly.

There's a whole new set of skills to learn with the airbrush, and it can sometimes seem really daunting to start with. Thankfully there are hundreds of guys and girls posting great stuff to help you on your way. The best thing to do, like learning anything, is starting small. The time you will save even just undercoating and base coating models makes the investment worthwhile and is a great way to get a feel for the tools and see whether you like them. From there, the world is your lobster to be honest. I've just done a batch of grey knights using the airbrush to do all of the highlighting for the armour, with 4 shades of metallic paint. To do it by hand would have taken a few nights at least, but with the airbrush it was a couple of hours in one night. And now, all that time I've saved can be spent detailing and/or working on other things. The next step for me is the vehicles that I have to paint - hopefully I'll get chance to learn a few more techniques that I can apply in the future.

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Re: airbrush

Postby Darklighter » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:23 pm

yep I'm with Stu. I paid £90 for a set that included a compressor with air tank and two brushes (low quality but I've got good use out them so far). The compressor runs quite hot and needs to cool down 20-30 mins in every hour of use in the summer. But it is maintenance free and run super super quite ideal for in house use. I do need a better airbrush as I can see the limitations of the ones I got in the set. But even with cheep brushes the money I've saved on spray and air cans is far more than my outlay. The finish on tanks is so smooth and takes not effort at all. To achieve anything close with a normal brush takes a well thinned paint over several if not tens of layers.

There are lots and lots of considerations for buying compressors that will effect your final decision though. From how long do you plan on using it at any one sitting, where are you going to use it and are you willing to put in maintenance time.

The most important things to look out for are air tanks (the bigger the better) and it's minimum running PSI, 0 is ideal 5 or under is what you are looking for. You don't have to worry about the maximum as you'll next to never need to run at more than 20-30 PSI. The air tank ensures a smooth air flow with no sputtering that a direct feed can give due to the movement of the diaphragm or piston. The lower the PSI the more detailed work you can do (brush depending). Everything else is personal preference. You can get cheep auto shop things that will work awesomely but will shake your home to bits and make you neighbours deaf.
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Re: airbrush

Postby harbo1993mark2 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:37 am

cool cheers for the information very helpfull
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Re: airbrush

Postby harbo1993mark2 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:06 am

next question to go with this is what paints do you recomend ????
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Re: airbrush

Postby _stu_ » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:03 am

I've recently started replacing my Citadel paints with matching colors from vallejo model color and game color ranges. Almost 50p cheaper for 17ml rather than 12ml, and come in a dropper style bottle rather than a pot which means less waste and easier mixing. I find somewhere around 1:2 ratio works well in my airbrush, although I'm looking to try the model air too. Most of the dragon I'm entering in this months comp was done with vallejo, and the Metallics on the wip grey knights were as well - q2 thread.
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Re: airbrush

Postby Jay » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:10 am

Vallejo Model Air are very good for your standard military colours. Badger minitaire are very good paints and have a wider range of "game" colours. Vallejo game colour as Stu say are good but if your starting out mixing and diluting paints not necessarily intended for the Airbrush can be a nightmare. Tamiya paints are good but use there own X20 thinner. Any acrylic paint can be used it's just a matter of diluation, get some cheap blue screen wash from tesco/asda etc. I use that and find its better for crappier paints like Citadel old ones. For the Vallejo stuff I always use there own thinner.
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Re: airbrush

Postby Darklighter » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:38 am

Paint is paint you just need to dilute it enough. It's an essential skill to learn and if you rely on premixed stuff you'll end up limiting your self in the future. I've had just as much success with water dilution as I have with airbrush thinners. It's personal choice but know how to do it with any medium will be better in the long run.
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Re: airbrush

Postby Ogregut » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:51 am

@darklighter - could you post a link of the set up you've bought please?
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