Hi AOS`ers

This post is for the Apoc battle and what to do on what day

Post with ideas for the apoc and also your army so we can possibly get a preliminary list for the sat giving more time to gaming!


Thursday: 10am - 6pm, not sure many are here, but im up for meeting to have drinks?


Friday: 10am - 6pm, For this day, depends on how many make it, intros, lunch, then CPs.


Saturday: 10am - 6pm, Most likely the Apocalypse battle (1 day only)


Sunday: 10am - 4pm, 2v2s, 1v1s etc Others game systems.



-When we get into meals and going out I believe we can make these arrangements duriing the day!

-If you fancy other game systems, advertise here! Im 6ft 1" bubbly....and love epic pm me!, start msgin each other for games!

-Also say if you have a car(eg Car will appear next to your name!)? no point all of us travelling on mass and clogging GW car park Those of us at the hotel can meet for breakfast? Spack what time is the breakfast?

-Also we need to get contact numbers in, i willing to accept pms of peoples mobile numbers (real name/online name/mob number) I will compile a list and a couple of days before the meet I will email them to Spack and Malek so we have three angles covered! Those who are bringing friends/club mates try and get their numbers just in case

So what you think? Start posting your apoc preferences and any specialist game you want to play!

conscriptboris

Other posts to look at:
AOS meet up Database (please give details )
AOS Weekend - What are you bringing
AOS Weekend - What are you bringing?

Whats the distinction between them and anyone who pays subs to turn up on a thursday? or are they the same thing? (if so Ljundhammer and MR6 (Known as froggy)can already reprezent! )
We will already have a fair bunch of styles and talents grouping up
Spacks lot
Matts lot
Ruffians Lot
We 3 locals
+ all the other blokes (and ladies of course)
For apoc we could just coalesce our groupings with some territorys into larger teams and squads which would allow us to keep it in house but still with a them and us thing.
I said in the events forum that apocolypse really needs grabbing by the horns by someone....we can't just turn up and wing it..
We could do with teams\ sides\ points\ no of tables used in apoc being sorted by the end of this week really.
I think time wise most people will be around saturday afternoon.

*Wanders off to start an apoc thread for august*

But before I do that...shall I start a challenge thead too?

Nah this will do for apoc..(might need a sticky though)
So what do we know..
A few people have said they'd prefer apoc used 4th ed rules (most people have known of 4th) and since there are little changes here and there and a lot of helping hands I say lets go with 4th for the biggy.

Just throwing it out there as a first idea (which I think I did 6 months back) how about 1000 points a side, 6 players per side on a smaller table set up (so thats 2 small groupings together vs one moderate size grouping..points variable as ratio to players..e.g. if one team wants to have one guy just bring 400 points the others can have the spare points or more players etc .

or do you want 12 players a side 1000 points (pre allocated to trade) each thats 24000 points on the table.. (a big %^&& off table ..I'll need seth or someone to climb on to push my models)

where do people want the direction to go?

EDIT BTW sclae to help, by the book
We're already in the realm of whole evening - a day to play territory.

6k a side, Could just squidge onto a 6x8 foot table

12k we'd definintly need a 12' by 8' foot table page 20

Or we state what we are bringing and work it out from there? Tim for example, will not have 1000 points with him...

How many people will we have Saturday morning?

I guess the agenda is starting to look like:

Friday: Challenge games (CP and various points limits, 4th and 5th ed as desired)
Saturday: Multi-player Apoc game (or two?) using 4th ed rules. Challenge games (CP and various points limits, 4th and 5th ed as desired) if time permits.
Sunday: Challenge games (CP and various points limits, 4th and 5th ed as desired)

Thats why clicking to fit in advance is a good idea.. If of your 6 players you have Spack..who i expect to itch at only using 1000 points and Tim who itchs at thinking of using 500 points= perfect matchup.

If we start trying to stick stuff on the table and then merge each other then write lists thats going to add time to what the apocolypse book already suggests is a day.
edit: Whoops misread your post.. OK so you want us to show what we are bringing can bring and then get sorted from that..bit complex (also mine is subject to change based on how many points I'm allocated e.g. warhound or chaos termie deepstrike sheet)

killmaimburn wrote:If we start trying to stick stuff on the table and then merge each other then write lists thats going to add time to what the apocolypse book already suggests is a day.

ASgreed, we need lists before hand.

Why don't we do something like have 1000 point lists as your main force +500 combat patrol legal force extra ready to go.

That way you have a 1000 point "standard battle force" and a combat patrol.

So for 1vs1 you go cp or 1000, for 2vs2 you ally with another 1000 or 1500 + someone elses cp.

For apocalypse you ally with multiple players.


If everything is in easy to manage blocks, it shouldn't be so troublesome, though I agree we should try to arrange match ups ahead of time.

ruffian4 wrote:ASgreed, we need lists before hand.

If everything is in easy to manage blocks, it shouldn't be so troublesome, though I agree we should try to arrange match ups ahead of time.

Was anyone really going to turn up to a mini-Wargame convention we've know about for 6 months without a list?

I'll have 1000, 1500 & 2000 points lists written up for whatever armies I've managed to paint (and some I haven't!). I'm happy to play anyone with them.

Best bet is likely to be to get your games sorted for day 1, then arrange for later days on that day - you'll have a fair idea about who you want/dont want to play by then too.

I'm not really interested in an Appocolypse game TBH (they tend to grind on for hours longer than anyone expects and wants in my experience), so I might just watch, or play anyone else who isn't wanting to play. I don't play less than 1000 points either - I don't like it.

Just a few of my thoughts...

That probably will work for the majority (building blocks I mean)..
selfishly I think "my tzeentch aren't going to last walking 12foot to meet the enemy with all its str 4 goodness"
If we are just taking our 1500s (or component parts) into apoc does that mean each side will have "imperial armour points" e.g. playing to a normal FOC might drive some folks crazy...whilst others with a normal 1500 will get hurt for a very long time until they can scratch that baneblade etc..
2-4 Super heavies per side?????
Where are the IA lot to voice there opinions they own these big games

Ljundhammer wrote:Was anyone really going to turn up to a mini-Wargame convention we've know about for 6 months without a list?

I was.

You see tactics is about how well you play, but strategy involves other levels of deviousness.

My intent was to turn up and say "oh no, I've forgotten my list and my mini's, I'll quickly pop back home and get them."

Go to pub.

Come back too late for a game.

"I'm sooo goood I would have beaten you all at once."

You all would have gone "Oh ruffian, you really are special."

Of course it would have been a shambles if someone loaned me an army...

What do we think, are "building blocks" the way to go???

ruffian4 wrote:
Go to pub.

Come back too late for a game.

"I'm sooo goood I would have beaten you all at once."

THIS is how I intend to play Warhammer 'til the end of time.

In fact, I'm going to become (more) of a geek, get employed by GW, work my way up to the top, release 14th ed (so that'll be 2012) as a single sheet of A4 with those as the rules - IN BIG LETTERS (RRP - £40).

Even LordMalek couldn't find a hole in those rules!

And all players get to be the winners! There is NO DOWNSIDE!

Must lay off Caffine...

EDIT - To be sensible - why bother with building blocks, as long as you have lists for the main points brackets, who cares?

Ljundhammer wrote: why bother with building blocks, who cares?

I don't care about what other folks do.But I think the idea was a running theme in an army that stays through various points brackets for the regular games.
e.g. My tzeentch, Smurf angels and 5th ed quasi FOC filler are all designed for 1500s (its what I\we play) I've downed lists to 1000 (by removing bits and bobs) and upgraded them (by adding men to squads or adding an extra elite unit) to 1850..... (3x2000s would mean too many cases )
But then that (as I say) gets tricky if a few on one side bring apocolypse specific stuff.

Could a Mod give this the bells and whistles treatment...

Who is interested in playing apocolypse (being part of a large game on a large table which takes a long time where you are a small cog in a giant machine)?

Speak up now so we can get an idea of scale (tables moved, views held etc) also state if you are attending but do NOT wish to play..so we can get ideas about how many tables we should not be using.

Ljundhammer wrote:[Must lay off Caffine...

You heartless capitalist pig.

Do we know what the main points brackets are?

My point pro blocks is that if everyone has an army (up to whatever points value you want) that is pre broken down into blocks, anyone can fight anyone with a minimum of fuss.

Eg, if tim and kate want to team up with someone with 1000points, all three can square off vs 4x cp, 2x 1000 or 1x 2000.

Doesn't matter what you actually bring, the maths and choices are already done.

I do think that everyone attending should bring along lists of:

-500pt

-1000pt

-1500pt

-2000pt (i think this should for people that have super flyers/titans etc for apoc)

This way we can play CP, 2v2 etc and also have a army for possible apoc and this gives maximum time of playing, minimum time of making armies!!!



conscriptboris

I'm happy with that conscript, with the proviso that 500 points is combat patrol legal (with the exception of being 500 points that is!!!).

It seems the best way so far...yay/nay?