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Postby LordMalekTheRedKnight » Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:50 pm

another question to add to the pile (or is that stack? lol):

Lifelink
A keyword ability seen on permanents. Whenever a permanent with lifelink deals damage, its controller gains that much life.

just want to clarify:
does this include damage dealt to Creatures (as well as players)?
does it include damage done in excess to that which is required to kill the recipient? (for example, if a 3/3 Creature with Lifelink is blocked by a 1/1 Creature, does its controller gain 3 life or just 1?)

ive just given Scourge of the Nobilisto a crappy 1/1 Red & White Creature, and its now easily capable of gaining me 6 life a turn, even if blocked - this seems very powerful, so i just wanted to check.

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Postby Culven » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:02 am

For the first part, yse, Lifelink works for damage dealt to either Creatures or Players.

As ti whether one may gain more life than the creature/player has, I believe the answer is yes, but I'm not certain. Sorry. :(
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Postby LordMalekTheRedKnight » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:18 pm

Culven wrote:For the first part, yse, Lifelink works for damage dealt to either Creatures or Players.

cheers mate. thats scary. :o

Culven wrote:As ti whether one may gain more life than the creature/player has, I believe the answer is yes, but I'm not certain. Sorry. :(

i believe you can, because Lifelink works on damage "dealt" not damage suffered/received/etc, and if a card says "deals 5 damage" (for example), then 5 damage is "dealt", right? :)

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p.s. my brother and one of my mums's friends also signed up for the free starter deck last night (the link still works). will let you know how long they take to arrive.
p.p.s. we are thinking of buying the new Jace Vs Chandra Duel Decks pack (as an Xmas present for ourselves/eachother):
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/produc ... roductinfo
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/A ... rcana/1700
has anyone tried these out yet?
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Postby Culven » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:28 pm

I saw the set in my shop on Saturday, but I didn't buy it. It could be interesting as Planeswalkers are an interesting new aspect that I still don't have a firm understanding for, but I'm learning. I'm interested to hear more about them and your experiences with them.
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Postby LordMalekTheRedKnight » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:39 pm

cheers. :)

i read the planeswalker rules online after seeing the set, and it definately sounds interesting - it should add a new dimension to the game. the sound a little vulnerable (especialy considering damage done to a player can be dealt to them instead - you could kill one outright with a single Lava Axe, for example).

i think its decided that we will be getting them for X-mas. :D

on a totally unrelated topic, something we only just realised last night (i was reading through the rulebook's glossary in order):

all Land is colourless (apparantly). 8O

this makes a big difference to Kate, as one of her cards (which she has multiple copies of) gives her Life for each Red Permanent i control. up until this point we were counting Mountains ("Red Land") as well, giving me easily a dozen relevant cards. however, if we dont count Lands, this will make that rule much less beneficial for her...

i have got this right (now), havent i?

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Postby Culven » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:18 pm

The colour(s) of a card are determined by the colours of mana needed to cast it. Land has no casting cost, therefore, it doesn't (normally) have a colour.

I just bought the Jace/Chandra set. It is a rather good deal for the cost. Each deck has 3 rares plus the Planeswalker.
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Postby LordMalekTheRedKnight » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:10 pm

Culven wrote:The colour(s) of a card are determined by the colours of mana needed to cast it. Land has no casting cost, therefore, it doesn't (normally) have a colour.

Kate goes ":("

(she got all the way up to 36 Life last night, between various cards, in part to us counting Mountains as Red Permanents - i managed to get her all the way back down to 1, but she still beat me)

Culven wrote:I just bought the Jace/Chandra set. It is a rather good deal for the cost. Each deck has 3 rares plus the Planeswalker.

yes, it did look good. the sparkly packaging almost made me buy it straight off the shelf (:oops:), and since ive looked into it online im sure im going to get it now. question is whether we put it buy til Christmas or give in to temptation and open it straight away! :P

please let me know how it works out (do you have someone to play the set against, Jace vs Chandra?) - i'd like to know how balanced the decks are against eachother.

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Postby Culven » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:40 pm

I won't have a chance to play the decks until Friday at the earliest, but I will try them out if I have the chance.
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Postby LordMalekTheRedKnight » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:14 pm

yet another question...

can you pay to use an ability whose rules you cannot actually follow?

for example, if a creature has an activated ability that says to "destroy target artifact or enchantment" (as its effect, not its cost), then could i pay the cost of that ability even if there are no artifacts or enchantments for me to target (or if i dont want to destroy any of the artifacts or enchantments that i could target)? :?:

the specific card that has caused me to raise this question is Wickerbough Elder. (i want to get rid of its -1/-1 counter, but Kate has no artifacts or enchantments in play - neither do i, for that matter)

i dont want its ability to achieve anything (so im fine with it being countered due to not having a legal target), but i do want to pay its cost. targeting a non-existant artifact or enchantment (or simply paying the cost and going "uh-oh, i dont have any legal targets so it gets countered") would suit me fine... if thats allowed.

anyone able to clarify?

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Postby Culven » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:45 pm

Tim, I think you are now ready for the Comprehensive Rules for Magic. It can be a bit to wade through, but I think that you may actually enjoy how thorough they are. These are the official rules which all tournaments follow, and to some degree, all friendly games as well.

Section 409.1c has your answer. ;)
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Postby LordMalekTheRedKnight » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:06 am

Culven wrote:Tim, I think you are now ready for the Comprehensive Rules for Magic.

ive been using that for a little while now, actually. ;)

i dont have any problems reading it, but i do have difficulty finding the answers that i need. :oops:
(i guess that with experience i will learn which words or terms to search for to get to the relevant topics on the page). :)

Culven wrote:Section 409.1c has your answer. ;)

so thats a "no" then :P

i thought it might have been - as usual i was going to play it safe until i found the answer. in the end it was moot, as just after i posted the question, Kate played an Enchantment anyway. :lol:

cheers mate! :)

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p.s. dont think that just because you have posted a link to the comp rules that this means you are off the hook as my trusted (and relied upon) MTG advisor! :twisted:
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Postby Culven » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:24 am

LordMalekTheRedKnight wrote:p.s. dont think that just because you have posted a link to the comp rules that this means you are off the hook as my trusted (and relied upon) MTG advisor! :twisted:

Hopefully. Now you can read through the rules and become my M:TG advisor. I bet you didn't even realize my devious plan until it was too late. Mwahahaha! :twisted:
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Postby estarriol » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:56 am

In your example malek, no, you can't if it has wording like that to be able to legally play it you must destroy something. Effect is/was considered part of the cost.
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Postby LordMalekTheRedKnight » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:25 am

another quick one...

:?: i have a card that allows me to change all instances of a colour word on another card. the other card reads "whenever you play a spell thats both red and white..." . in this example could i change the word "white" to "red"?
(so it would now read "whenever you play a spell thats both red and red...", allowing it to be triggered by a simple red spell)

thoughts?

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Postby Culven » Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:54 pm

Yes. That would work. You simply to a find and replace for the specified colours within the text of the target spell or permanent.
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