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Postby Choral » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:33 pm

Hello,

I started collecting Eldar about a month ago with my fiance IMF2000. So far I've only played a couple of short games but I'm loving my Dire Avengers already. I only have those and a couple of guadian squads atm but it's a start :)

I bought a box set of harlequins to go with my army, partly cos I'm looking forward to painting them. I noticed the models come with different weapon sets but to start with I don't want to spend the points on upgrading them while I learn how to use them. Does it matter in the games that the models will have upgraded weapons even tho they will be using them as their standard weapons? No other weapons came in the box for me to stick on the models so I just wanted to check before working on my army list.
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Re: New Eldar player

Postby LordMalekTheRedKnight » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:05 pm

Choral wrote:Hello,

I started collecting Eldar about a month ago with my fiance IMF2000.

hi and welcome to Age of Strife! hope you like it here. :)

my wife Kate is also a member here (LadyRaven), and plays Eldar too! :o

Choral wrote:So far I've only played a couple of short games but I'm loving my Dire Avengers already. I only have those and a couple of guadian squads atm but it's a start :)

DAs are a good solid Troops choice, and Guardians are good in a supporting role - a great start IMO. :)

Choral wrote:I bought a box set of harlequins to go with my army, partly cos I'm looking forward to painting them. I noticed the models come with different weapon sets but to start with I don't want to spend the points on upgrading them while I learn how to use them. Does it matter in the games that the models will have upgraded weapons even tho they will be using them as their standard weapons? No other weapons came in the box for me to stick on the models so I just wanted to check before working on my army list.

that all depends on your opponent. ;)
(or event organiser, if playing in a tournament etc)

most people aspire to (eventually) make their armies WSYIWYG - in short, when a trooper has a certain weapon in the game, the model used to represent that trooper has the matching weapon shown on it. this makes it harder to get confused, as you can tell what everyone has just by looking at the table (it also stops people from being accused of cheating by switching weapons about as they are needed).

of course, as long as you and your opponent dont mind keeping mental notes as to what isnt quite how it looks, then that is fine.
when it comes to treating models that have upgrades shown on them as instead being armed only with basic equipment, then that is definately the least confusing way of doing it. :)

we couldnt wait to get started using the CP forces we were building, so we didnt wait: we played with what we had ready. :P
in some cases that meant models with no weapons (or heads!), and sometimes just empty bases with a piece of paper next to them with the unit's name written on it! this is fine in the short term, but the atmosphere of the game is definately improved the closer you get to having everything as WYSIWYG as possible IMO, so its not something i would want to do for long.

also, being able to concentrate on playing the game, rather than remembering what is what, makes things a lot easier.

now we've finished building our forces with all the right weapons etc, the next step (and improvement to gameplay/atmosphere) is to get them painted... :roll:

anyway, i hope that helps :)

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Postby Angelwing » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:17 pm

Hello and welcome!

It's fine to use a unit that is modelled with upgrades counting them as basic troopers. It's the players who have trouble remembering (like me) that makes it all go wrong!
To be honest, with harlequins, a healthy spread of those upgrades ie. the kiss, is really needed for the unit to work well. I'd go ahead and stick them on!
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Postby Spack » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:48 pm

Hi Choral, nice to see another new member.

As to your query about models and upgrades, I think in general you'll find most people are pretty flexible. It tends to be tournaments that try to enforce it so that players don't get confused, and you'll maybe sometimes find players who are particularly picky about it, but I wouldn't worry about it for now.

Hope you find the site useful :)

As to Eldar, nice to see another player. I don't play them very often, but they are on the whole nice models - I don't yet have any of the new Harlequins (I've got the old original box set of 14) but I'm going to order some as they are very nice figures.
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Postby AdrianG » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:51 pm

Hi and welcome Choral. :D
Ermm I've not played Eldar (space pansies) since Second Edition, so I can't really give you any ideas on them. Sorry :(
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Postby timewizard » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:58 pm

Welcome to the asylum Choral!

Pay no mind to Algeroth. Eldar are only pansies when they lose :lol: . But then...so are Orks! :wink:
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Postby conscriptboris » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:15 pm

alryt m8, any Q someone here will have an answer, not me this time tho as i dont do/like eldar......

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Postby killmaimburn » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:21 am

timewizard wrote:Eldar are only pansies when they lose :lol:

They are a dying race whose special charector is already captured\dead.. even when they win. they lose (Don't mind me..darned pointy eared freaks always beat me with all their special cheaty ways)
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