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New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby hunter101 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:37 pm

RULES/BOOKS
- Codex: Space Marines with a very nice picture of badass looking Space Marine (probably best C:SM cover so far)
- confirmed the 7 limited versions
- none showed in WD, all mentioned obviously as mail-order only
- Apocalypse Warzone:Damnos will also be released (unsure if it’s digital only or not) – Damnos (see the BL book “Fall of Damnos” – basicly Necrons vs. Ultramarines)


NEW PLASTIC KITS
Space Marine Captain & Space Marine Librarian (2 separate clam-packs)
- not to confuse with multi-part customisable Space Marines Commander set which should stay around
- those are like Cadre Fireblade, Aspiring Champion etc… 1 pose, plastic
- Captain has Cato Sicarius-like helmet and lots of bling, has a very similar pose to Captain from AOBR, Power Sword and Combi-Grav
- Librarian has beard (a lot of SM beards + bald heads in this release) and a skull-cap thingy wihich makes him look a bit like… Merlin
- Librarian also has a power staff (or whatever you call that) held horizontally, and one ugly cherub-like servitor cupid (creepy stuff)


Reclusiam Command Squad
- contains the mentioned SM Command Squad (don’t see any changes here), a plastic Chaplain and… Razorback – all for 55£
- this definetly isn’t the prettiest Chaplain model out there but it has some nice bitz, nice big skully Crozius and 2 heads – one bald with Kano-like face implant and the other is a skull helmet (looks a bit iffy)
- he also has purity seals with massive ribbons/parchments blown by the wind


Sternguard Veterans
- all the best elements fromt heir old metal versions, long loincloths, tons of bling, ornaments on helmets and armor, seems to have lot of bitz
- finally we get plastic versions of combi-weapons, all seem to be here including the new Combi-Grav
- nice new plastic Heavy Flamer and Heavy Bolter (version with drum-mag)
- badass heads and poses (yap, another bald head with beard)
- sergeant has a “Roman-mohawk” on his helmet (not the Sicarius one, other way around)
- 5 models in box


Vanguard Veterans
- slightly less bling then their on-foot veteran brothers
- nice ornaments on chainswords and power sword (relic/master-crafted versions?)
- mohawk head for sarge (like Lord Executioner, perhaps it’s a trend for jump-packers?)
- some nice aquila markings on jump packs
- awesome power-sword / relic blade
- 5 models in box


(NEW) Tactical Squad
- 10 models, price increased slightly
- not many changes here, will nicely mix with bits from old kit
- major addition is more head variants and new Grav-Gun and Grav-Pistol
- some new ornaments on backpacks and shoulder pads (not all, just few bits to make some difference among marines)
- interesting bits: Auspex is back! (but DA heralded that already), set of bolter/arms during reload (looks cool), badass Combi-Flamer, nice new (smaller) Power Fist

Stalker / Hunter
- the rumored dual-kit AA tank
- lots of new parts, side armor is massive and has some kind of pistons that seem to be pinning it to the ground
- front plate is also different from other vehicles on Rhino-chassis: Stalker / Hunter has one that looks a bit Heresy-era with a “bumper” that looks similarly to the one Landspeeder has (that belt-of-cubes bumper thing)

- Stalker is the one with dual 3-barrel autocannon-like guns, it also has a nice radar dish, really badass look
- it’s described as rapid-firing AA (guess it’s SM version of IG Hydra)
- now here’s big thing: it’s not twin-link! those are TWO SEPARATE guns that are mentioned to be able to shoot at TWO SEPARATE targets

- Hunter is the one that looks like that vintage SM Hunter tank – one massive AA turret barrel
- shoots “Skyspear Rockets” but no details on special rules here


Centurion Devastator Squad / Centurion Assault Squad
- the “Big Suits” everyone is talking about, apparently they are this release’s big spotlight
- Devastators are Heavy Support (duh!) and Assaults are… Fast Attack (what did you expect?)
- come in plastic kits, 3 models per box
- they really look like if the exoskelton is worn ON the Power Armour – their heads look super tiny
- they all seem to have same weapon in each hand and something mounted on the chest
- the Devastator options displayed contained Lascannons and Heavy Bolters
- the Assault options were Breaching Drills (like that arm FW’s Siege Dread has) with Stormbolters(?) attached, no other arm option shown
- the “chest weapon” apparently gave us choice of : frag lanuchers, mini-hurricane bolter (?!) and some rockets (chest mounted Typhoon ML?)
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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby KInG » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:42 pm

Please stop I'm getting a little too excited. ;)
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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby markb » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:44 pm

Good god them centaur things are minging! I think the GW design team have been taking some mind altering drugs recently.
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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby KInG » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:51 pm

Lol can they walk. :)
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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby Stryder » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:00 pm

My eyes they burn!!! Still they will die just as easy and if they are big enough could be suitable helbrutes/obliterators with enough spiky bits hehe
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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby hunter101 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:02 pm

There not very nice. And GW are making them there flag ship to lornch the new range. Somebody in the PA department needs the sack,
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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby berger15 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:35 pm

I had no love for this edition of 40K, and this actually makes things worse. I think I may have to sell all my GW 40K stuff now. I feel as though everything I loved about the game has just been ripped out. At least when it was just the rules being bad you could rely on some nice modles, but now the models are geting worse - both in terms of design and price. Those exo-suits make me want to weep they are so bad!

I think LOTS of heads need to roll at GW before they can sort this mess out! :evil:
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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby timewizard » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:53 pm

berger15 wrote:I had no love for this edition of 40K, and this actually makes things worse. I think I may have to sell all my GW 40K stuff now. I feel as though everything I loved about the game has just been ripped out. At least when it was just the rules being bad you could rely on some nice modles, but now the models are geting worse - both in terms of design and price. Those exo-suits make me want to weep they are so bad!


I feel your pain berger. I haven't played 40K in ages, and the prices and the quality of the failcast models is really getting out of control.

That's why I started getting into Flames of War. The rules are very clear, the models admittedly are expensive, but I started with the Open FIre box set which for about $70 gave you 11 tanks, 3 platoons of infantry and 2 anti-tank guns. Plus cardboard counters and scenery, dice, and a full rulebook.

I've gotten the tanks all painted up and have the infantry (us paratroopers and german panzergrenadiers) primed and ready for final painting.

If you're looking for a new game system I highly recommend it.
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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby hunter101 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:41 pm

Has any one tried Dropzone Commander yet? I know its a little off thread but it looks rather good.
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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby timewizard » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:45 pm

Haven't heard of it, I'll have to look it up.

{EDIT} 10MM?!?!? Man! And I thought the 15mm flames of war stuff was tiny!

Interesting looking game though.

That's kinda the point though, isn't it? With all the different games and game systems out there, you would think GW would try to lower their prices to stay competitive. I guess they don't feel they have to.
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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby hunter101 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:51 pm

I may order one or two bits in and do a review. It looks a bit like Battle Tech and Epic 40,000
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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby hunter101 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:11 pm

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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby timewizard » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:21 pm

Yeah, saw that pic in KMB's post!
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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby killmaimburn » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:22 pm

timewizard wrote:Haven't heard of it, I'll have to look it up.

{EDIT} 10MM?!?!? Man! And I thought the 15mm flames of war stuff was tiny!

Interesting looking game though.

That's kinda the point though, isn't it? With all the different games and game systems out there, you would think GW would try to lower their prices to stay competitive. I guess they don't feel they have to.

Didn't take long to just descend into price grumble.. have the prices on the stuff no ones going to buy come out yet??
We have talked about dropzone commander a little..
I love them, they make GW seem cheap with their £140 art deco buildings. As does privateer press if you do anything other than play with 3 models. Even mantic moving to resin is now pricing itself closer to GW rather than trying to eek out the "we clone them (cough) but we're cheaper" lark

Loving the idea of a codex space marine rather than a codex ultramarine.. 4th ed here we go.. (does this mean black templars have been done in??)

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Re: New space marine stuff. Has GW lost the plot completely?

Postby timewizard » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:36 pm

killmaimburn wrote:
EDIT not my pic..Not my forum TW :lol:


Oops! :oops: I sit corrected!

Kudos to BANE for the pic from BOLS!
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