Nige, the first link is a good starting point. Its made by a veteran 40k player. I like the sound of it! I want to play the undead, no idea of the fluff its just closest to nurgle...

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/09/ ... chine.html

http://privateerpress.com/warmachine

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/11/ ... -cryx.html

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/12/ ... chine.html

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2010/01/ ... rjack.html

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2010/01/ ... astic.html

Lads down my club play this alongside Hordes. It is an excellent game and the models are great - if expensive. The game is primarily Skirmish style with a clear, simple combat system. Where 40K and Fantasy are about massed firepower or clever tactical us of pressure on the battlefield, Warmachine and Hordes are about brute force applied with lots of tricks. Cryx are the sneakiest bunch for WM. Khador the hardest in terms of defence and outright smackdown. Cygnar are the shootiest with the shiniest technology. Retribution of Scyrah are the newest, and therefore beardiest. But that's ok because the game encourages it! Mercanaries are..... hardest to use as a free standing force. The game is great - try it - you won't regret it.

looks good at a glance Si, I gues the proof is in the pudding, but nevertheless it is something I am interested in from the shops POV.

Since GW reduced the discounts we are now having to sell other lines to maintain the site. This range/gaming system seems to have a market out there, even the Birmingham lot are playing it presently more than 40k I think.

So I will add it to my list of suppliers to contact. When we open the account and get stock in I can have a closer look.

What's the difference between Warmachine and Hordes?

Both are set in the same setting of the 'Iron Kingdoms' - a wierd fantasy world where Sci-fi and Fantasy collide. Warmachine is about huge hulking warjacks - robot constructs that are telepathically controlled by warcasters (like a HQ) that lead their armies against those of nearby kingdoms. Some warjacks are larger, some smaller. They include infantry and artillery of various types too. Each warcaster has a limited amount of 'focus' which are spent like points to give orders to the warjacks. Living units take orders instead which follow a similar leadership system to 40K

Hordes is a more fantasy based game with warlocks that lead armies of beasts and monsters that are controlled similarly to the units in warmachine. The difference is that the mechanic is called fury, and rather than giving it out, you 'force' your warbeasts to do things and they generate fury points on themselves. The main difference being that instead of in warmachine giving out focus at the start of the turn the warlocks in Hordes must harvest it back, or else the beast run the risk of frenzying and you lose control of them.

The joy of the two games is that although the control mechanics are slightly different the core combat and movement mechanics are virtually the same, so the two games are interconnected and interchangeable.

Imagine your huge hulking steam powered warjack climbing over a building it's just destroyed, triumphantly standing above the wreckage of the enemy in the building, only to be slammed off it's feat by a giant troll with claw hands powerful enough to rip your warjacks arms off.

It really is rather good....

Sounds good. Thanks for the comprehensive write up

i might take a couple of jack's to whw n we can have a quick game..

Herne, thanks for the time and trouble you took to give us that write up. Its appreciated

Cheers
Typhus

Sure was Stu... Is this something oour customers/members here would want to see sold in the shop, cheap!

I would, but this may the wrong forum to ask that question.

true. we've been talking about running a survey on the forum, leave it with me.