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Re: Blood angel list

Postby BANE » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:37 pm

Personally I would have 2 of the baals as flamers drop the flamers from the backs and just keep the hvy bolter and use the spare points to turn your dread to a Libby dread. Give it wings and you can move it the same speed as mephi for a duel threat, you could even give it shield so you can keep both itself and mephi safe while jumping into the enemy's gun sights.
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Re: Blood angel list

Postby Ljundhammer » Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:10 pm

But what do heavy bolters do?

Significantly worse against armour than the asscannon . Significantly worse at anti-infantry than the asscannon or heavy flamer (as this is a midfield army, I'll have heavy flamer range).

I'm going to have to veto Heavy Bolters BANE. Outside GKs they're useless. With 3 demolishers & 5 assault cannons, and a 36" threat range on each, I can get a pretty good alpha-strike demech with a potential 8 vehicles destroyed on turn 1 (obviously won't be that many due to cover & needing 6s on the assault cannons and scattering ordnance). If I take heavy bolters and 2 flamestorms, it drops to a max of 4 vehicles (and in reality less). Once my opponent's walking stuff starts going boom!
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Re: Blood angel list

Postby BANE » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:47 am

Not much other than keep you points down, I was mainly suggesting it so you could get the Libby dread to act as support for mephi. I see what you want your list to do, but I see you maybe popping a few transports first turn and then having blobs of troops moving around, they will use cover to deny your vindis decent kill shots, this is where I think you would benifit from the flamestorms on your baals.

Other than mephi you don't really have anything to hit the enemy units, its maybe just my playstyle thinking but when I pop a transport I like to hit the troops fairly quickly after that.

Just my advice of course so means little.
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Re: Blood angel list

Postby Ljundhammer » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:20 pm

No. Fair points. I tend to work on the basis that I drop tanks first then worry about troops. Whether that's sensible or not is another matter!
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Re: Blood angel list

Postby BANE » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:56 pm

That's the IG player in you.

An equally valid approach.
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Re: Blood angel list

Postby BANE » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:46 am

All the time I was posting I was unaware that hvy flamers on rbacks are free, I auto assumed that there was an upgrade cost. Now I know otherwise ignore all my comments about hvy bolters.
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Re: Blood angel list

Postby Ljundhammer » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:22 pm

Was thinking about taking this list to 1850 without just adding 100 point of bunkum (with Fast & heavy filled I can add scouts - no!, or play with elites & HQ).

So I've dropped the mephiston noob hammer.

I've gained the Terminator Deathstar noob hammer

HQ: librarian - 145 - terminator armour, storm shield - shield (not sure about this, not sure how close to tanks I'll be after turn 1 to use it!), rage (for teh terminator lolz)

Elite: priest - 85 - terminator armour

Elite: terminators - 225 - 5 x TH/SS

ASM - 130 - meltagun, flamerback

ASM - 130 - meltagun, flamerback

ASM - 165 - melta gun, assback

ASM - 165 - melta gun, assback

Baal - 115 - asscannon

Baal - 115 - asscannon

Baal - 115 - asscannon

Vindicator - 145

Vindicator - 145

Vindicator - 145

Makes me 25 points short, but can add melta bombs/ dozers as needed.

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Re: Blood angel list

Postby killmaimburn » Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:11 pm

Not as funny.. and your only meq list in 5 years creeping back to TEQ shows a weak spirit..wheres your conviction man!!

Seems relevant to your army concept generally (I just skim read)
http://www.3plusplus.net/2012/04/post-t ... blood.html
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Re: Blood angel list

Postby killmaimburn » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:51 pm

Farewell5th ed. I got very very very, very very , very very drunk and wrote a list..after an epiphany that I hadn’t used cgras drop pods yet.
JAMES BA 1750:

Mephiston: 250

Furioso: 125 - talons

ASM - 130 - meltagun, flamerback

ASM - 130 - meltagun, flamerback

ASM - 165 - melta gun, assback

ASM - 165 - melta gun, assback

Baal - 115 - asscannon

Baal - 115 - asscannon

Baal - 115 - asscannon

Vindicator - 145

Vindicator - 145

Vindicator - 145

1745 (a dozer blade lol)

I took
Chapter master gabrial seth 160

1 priest in termie armour-85
5 termies 1 CML 2 chainfists-240
=325

5Asm melta drop pod-110
5Asm melta drop pod-110
5Asm melta drop pod-110
5Asm melta drop pod-110
5Asm melta drop pod-110
5Asm melta drop pod-110
=660

2MM attack bikes-100
2MM attack bikes-100
=200

Las autocannon pred 135
Las autocannon pred 135
Las autocannon pred 135
=405
=1750
I rolled high, game is draw/ bases game on 12”in conventional (I might remember the convoluted names for stuff in 6th ed)
Forced him to go first, he set up in a phalanx tank wall.. I set up my preds diagonally opposite.

My stuff comes on piecemeal, with fair shots at stuff…but terrible penetration rolls. I land around him blocking LOS and failing with my suicide melta troop choices.

He’s walled up tight in his castle wall shenanigans (I start moaning about him needing to play the game not the distance and to stick his balls out etc)..
The whole 24.3”s from my board edge so my multimeltas can’t smack him if they drive on, but he appears to forget he’s the stronger aggressor and random game length.
Hes dominating I’ve popped one vindie and lost all but 2 troop choices and preds (MM attack bikes he killed with thunderous rage/fear).
My termies scatter badly.. he sends mephiston god of combat into battle and kills a couple (loads of invulnerables smug mode).. I kick the god of wars arse.And I'm just perpetually stunning the furioso :P

Preds are still viable.. stormbolters on drop pods are kicking butt (they killed off a 5 man asm squad stunned 2 vindicators and stunned a baal..not bad) Melta is missing everywhere.
Termies make it to his base and camp out (overkill guys there whoops) My 5 man asm land on my base..he tries to contest by lurking beside me with gunless vehicles..
He kills my termies with ranged fire..
I land a 5 man +gabreiel ON his base.. my preds still viable and 5 man asm are on my base chewing up his baals that he’d sent to dodgems me roughly.
Game ends..I win..few hours later I start to sober up.
James lost with awesome list.
James annoyed :D :oldfist :oldfist :oldfist :oldfist :oldfist :oldfist
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Re: Blood angel list

Postby Ljundhammer » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:37 pm

I was terrible.

Absolutely terrible.

So bad, even Alan Shearer said I was bad.

I haven't played that badly for years. Shows what 4 weeks off the 40k does to my brain.

No excuses, the better player won.

I'm going to go an perform my pennence with a phalicly shaped drop pod.
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