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Don't panic Mr Mainwaring!

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Don't panic Mr Mainwaring!

Postby mattjgilbert » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:20 pm

Jon and I played a not-real game of WHFB 8th ed last night. By that I mean we picked 3 random units each, threw some terrain on the table and went throught the mechanics of the game to see how it played. We'll try a real game on Wednesday next week.

Now, at one point a unit of 10 savage orc boar boyz charged a unit of 10 night runners. The night runners chose to stand and shoot killing 1 orc. They killed another in combat but lost the combat and ran. The orcs pursued and killed them off only to crash into a forest.

Now at this point the orcs have to take a dangerous terrain test. 5 are in the trees and they manage to fail 3 of the 5 tests! At this point it looks like they have triggered a panic test: the unit has lost 25% of the models it started the phase with [[Question 1 - were we corect?]]

The orcs fail the test and flee but the rules do not cover the direction in which to flee so we had them turn round and run directly away from the trees (as they did the damage) [[Question 2 - did we get this right?]]

Because they are fleeing cavalry in woods, the unit has to take dangerous terrain tests again and another 2 die (we couldn't see anything in the rulebook to prevent this, that is, multiple terrain tests in the same phase).

So the net result of the charge was that a 10 strong unit of savage orc cavalry ended the phase having suffered more casualties from the local flora than from the enemy unit they charged and ended up fleeing with 70% loses despite being victorious in combat.

Jon then shot one more orc meaning they could never rally and off they went.


Very funny and very orcy but did we ge the rules right? I think we did...
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Re: Don't panic Mr Mainwaring!

Postby DaBoss » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:21 am

mattjgilbert wrote:Now at this point the orcs have to take a dangerous terrain test. 5 are in the trees and they manage to fail 3 of the 5 tests! At this point it looks like they have triggered a panic test: the unit has lost 25% of the models it started the phase with [[Question 1 - were we corect?]]

Yep correct - Page 62 Heavy Casualties.

mattjgilbert wrote:The orcs fail the test and flee but the rules do not cover the direction in which to flee so we had them turn round and run directly away from the trees (as they did the damage) [[Question 2 - did we get this right?]]

Nope - Page 63 Direction of Flight - Brought about by any other reason, I think you would have to pivot away from the closest enemy unit and then flee.

mattjgilbert wrote:Because they are fleeing cavalry in woods, the unit has to take dangerous terrain tests again and another 2 die (we couldn't see anything in the rulebook to prevent this, that is, multiple terrain tests in the same phase).

Yep correct, just checking Page 117, it says 'When a model marches, charges, flees, overruns or pursues into or through an area of dangerous terrain...'

mattjgilbert wrote:Jon then shot one more orc meaning they could never rally and off they went.

Final thing - NOTE: You can still rally a unit under 25% by rolling double 1 (Page 24).


Must agree, it's crazy that terrain can kill so much - going to happen more if you go with the 1d6+4 scenery as suggested and the push to taking large units.
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Re: Don't panic Mr Mainwaring!

Postby mattjgilbert » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:24 am

Yes we noticed the double 1 thing but I just removed the unit as we were not really playing :)
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Re: Don't panic Mr Mainwaring!

Postby Ogregut » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:19 am

You did do one thing wrong, savage orcs are frenzied so don't take panic tests!

The double one rule is now quite important as you don't score any VP unless the unit is dead or fled of the board. If a unit is fleeing at the end of a game they are not worht any VP.
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Re: Don't panic Mr Mainwaring!

Postby DaBoss » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:38 am

Ogregut wrote:You did do one thing wrong, savage orcs are frenzied so don't take panic tests!


Missed that they were Savage Orc Boar Boyz, so no tests till they lose the Frenzy.
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Re: Don't panic Mr Mainwaring!

Postby mattjgilbert » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:30 am

Ah yes, no panic tests anyway! Doh.
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