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Tourney on saturday

Postby KInG » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:16 pm

posted my list for this weekends tourney here from other thread if anyone saw it.

its for this weekends tourney up in sunderland which is allowing everything in if you want to take it.

I will definitely be taking pictures and try to give a rough overview of the days events and how the escalation/stronghold went down.

My list is submitted and Ive decided I didn't want to get frowned at as the win at all cost outsider from the 'Boro, so gone for a list chosen entirely from the DA codex.

It is a list that should be able to deal with high T and AV. Its CC ability is zero though, and relies on manoeuvring to keep from assaults:

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Sammael on speeder

TROOPS:
3 RW bikes with 2 melta and combi flamer.
3 RW bikes with 2 melta and combi flamer.
3 RW bikes with 2 flamer and combi flamer.
1 RW attk bk with m/melta.
1 RW attk bk with m/melta.
10 tactical with ML and skyfire and Razoeback with TL AssCannon.

EITES:
1 dreadie with m/melta, h/flamer, storm bolter in drop pod with locator.bn
1 dreadie with m/melta, h/flamer, storm bolter in drop pod

FAST ATK:
1 RW LandSpdr Tornado - Cyclone ML and HBolter
1 RW LandSpdr Tornado - Cyclone ML and HBolter
1 RW LandSpdr Tornado - Cyclone ML and HBolter

HEAVY SPRT:
1 Pred annihilator - 1 TL lassie and 2 lassie spons.
1 Pred annihilator - 1 TL lassie and 2 lassie spons.
1 Pred annihilator - 1 TL lassie and 2 lassie spons.


and that's it... no trickery, just pure in your face firepower. Hopefully enough to level a couple of units a turn at my discretion. ;)

although I tried this with my mates tau and spent two turns almost trying to down 2 devilfish with +3 cover saves :(
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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby timewizard » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:11 pm

Looks like a solid list. Good luck with it.

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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby Socaddict » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:16 am

Are the AC+2LC preds not still the better choice? perhaps giving you enough to take MMs on some of the speeders?
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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby Ljundhammer » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:08 am

Good luck! My tournament's been moved from this weekend to 5th April. :(

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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby KInG » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:31 pm

The good thing about those tornados though socaddict is that if anyone brings a horde the frags and hb speeders will rip them up, hopefully. That and the bike unit with the three flamers.

They are my anti infantry units, but if my other stuff fails or they are fielding lords of war units, the speeders can assist also. ;)

As for the preds I'm not sure st 7 is needed.

As for any other unit options, I was a bit limited by what I had painted. :(
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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby BANE » Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:49 pm

Good luck mate, tell them I haven't forgot about the 2 quid I owe them.
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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby KInG » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:23 pm

lmao - I'll pay it for you, bloody cheapskate...

See if I can place better than your last spot - 19 entrants this time :)

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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby D-warfer » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:03 am

KInG wrote:Its CC ability is zero though, and relies on manoeuvring to keep from assaults:
HQ:
Sammael on speeder

TROOPS:
3 RW bikes with 2 melta and combi flamer.
3 RW bikes with 2 melta and combi flamer.
3 RW bikes with 2 flamer and combi flamer.
1 RW attk bk with m/melta.
1 RW attk bk with m/melta.
10 tactical with ML and skyfire and Razoeback with TL AssCannon.

EITES:
1 dreadie with m/melta, h/flamer, storm bolter in drop pod with locator.bn
1 dreadie with m/melta, h/flamer, storm bolter in drop pod

FAST ATK:
1 RW LandSpdr Tornado - Cyclone ML and HBolter
1 RW LandSpdr Tornado - Cyclone ML and HBolter
1 RW LandSpdr Tornado - Cyclone ML and HBolter

HEAVY SPRT:
1 Pred annihilator - 1 TL lassie and 2 lassie spons.
1 Pred annihilator - 1 TL lassie and 2 lassie spons.
1 Pred annihilator - 1 TL lassie and 2 lassie spons.

although I tried this with my mates tau and spent two turns almost trying to down 2 devilfish with +3 cover saves :(

This seems very old edition.
So this is a tourney,where the gloves come off.
Where you are choosing to not take any of the new core rules ;giant things,allies with good flyers,psychic powers.

You're not making the alpha strikers more resilient with a techmarine and infravisor loadout, or building around the squad buff guy.But you are taking 3x 3x 3x and putting dreadnoughts in a bike chapter- so if its heavily comped you won't get "gentleman of the event".Do you have a list of the comping scores to check ravenwing duplicates are an asset not a penalty?

I think its right that you keep the lascannons. I think the combiflamer on a tiny squad of flamers is wasted points. (just chuck a grenade as written in those intro to 6th ed batreps you have here-they are devilish I've stolen the combi plas snipe idea)
Then take something to handle stuff released after the necron codex.If you have no other models-imperial armour 2, 30 point upgrade, one-use legacy upgrade, gives your lascannon predator the ability to ignore nightfight AND target flyers at normal BS.Thats one AV13 flyer less on the table if you can find 20 points more fat.
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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby Darklighter » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:00 pm

Nigel I know you had some god aweful dice rolls in our last game (as did I in the early game) and got a little thrown by a few of my new tricks. All can be easy over come with practice and calm thought but I though I must also tell you upon my reviewing my list I found I was also 190 points underspent (I know my maths is terrible). I'd normally not post like this as it seems a little gloaty but I thought as your event is fast aproching you may want to rethink a few list option based on that information. I know on player skill alone I'm not good enough to beat you with that kind of a handicap. I think What D-warfer has mentioned a few more force multiplier units might be worht looking at... But I don't know your (built) units of army list well enough to be more help.
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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby KInG » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:53 pm

Yeh I like all the new stuff and was thinking of many other options, but as I stated earlier, painted models and time constraints have lead to the list.

Never heard of the IA thingy DW mentioned. That sounds great and could have had that in place of the combi flamers, which should have been combi meltas. :(
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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby D-warfer » Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:06 pm

KInG wrote:Never heard of the IA thingy DW mentioned. That sounds great and could have had that in place of the combi flamers, which should have been combi meltas. :(

So, just checking,
List thread is actually list locked as you've already had to submit form.
You've submitted a form that says your taking combi flamers on everything, when you aren't.
Whilst you're not willing to go WAAC, if I find a way to make your army stand its ground with a sneeze and FW you ARE willing to do it.
(lol)
Since you need to fix the melta thing with the TO anyway isn't it worth fixing it for the better?
The Imperial armour 2 legacy upgrades just ask that you make the one chosen look a bit more special, and it can be bought off the shelf to apply to codex DA and space marine.
Its delightful how GW is slowly fixing it so that older model armies can still work, its just a shame it suffers too many books and all the price weep it brings to get there.
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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby KInG » Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:53 pm

yes list is submitted and I'm not gonna ask to change, as I feel that once it is submitted and entry date past, its not right to ask that.

I agree with the GW making older stuff viable and about the long ass way they do that.

do you have a page number for the legacy upgrades please ;)
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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby D-warfer » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:09 pm

its the new edition, can't off the top of my head, but the upgrades are an appendix right near the back called legacies (12 ish pages from back cover)
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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby KInG » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:12 pm

ok thanks ill go take a look now :)
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Re: Tourney on saturday

Postby D-warfer » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:21 am

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=imperi ... QCQ&zoom=1
get the impression that you lads are a tad behind the times, hopefully this is a link to bell of lost souls image . A news article where they show the contents page with legacies on. (see bottom=exact page) To show I'm not putting manure in yer hands and demanding you clap. But I'm not breaking forum rules in this place too.
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