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Announcing the "BER" event

Announcing the "BER" event

Postby timewizard » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:40 am

All right everyone, it's time to find those unopened, half started, incomplete plastic model kits that you started, lost interest in and threw on a shelf or under a table somewhere. Now is your chance to finally finish those poor neglected projects you have been avoiding and breathe new life into them.

What follows is what we are calling the "BER Special".

Gaming Figures is pleased to announce and sponsor a special modeling and painting event. It is called the "BER Special", a special event that will be held during the months that end in 'ber'. The owners of Gaming Figures have offered a prize fund of £150 for this contest. This prize can only be redeemed in GW plastic kits and must be collected in person from PC Tech. If the winner is unable to collect their prize in person, an organizer of the event will collect it on their behalf and ship it to them.

This contest will be a separate stand alone contest not to be confused with the ongoing Painter of the Month event. The final results of this contest do not count in any way towards the points in the POTM event. This special contest will have the following rules and criteria;

All entries must be Games Workshop plastic kits. They may be from any Games Workshop model range, 40K, WFB, LOTR or the Hobbit. No finecast, metal or forge world entries, in full or in part, are allowed. Brass etch pieces of any kind are similarly not allowed.

Conversion work on the model is acceptable, but all parts and bits must be from Games Workshop plastic kits. Kits and bits or parts thereof from any other company or manufacturer will not be allowed or accepted including 3rd party custom resin bases. This does not exclude standard conversion materials such as plasticard, greenstuff, milliput, wood, basing materials and the like. Contestants must submit a WIP picture of any converted model prior to priming to show only allowed components were used. If an entrant is in doubt about a material, a PM can be sent to timewizard or Talus requesting a clarification.

To enter, a photo of the kit(s) to be entered must be placed in this (or a future) thread after September 1, 2013. Entries will be accepted only for the first 15 days of September, 2013.

Entrants have up to the last day of November to build and finish their project. A picture of the finished entry can be uploaded to the "BER Special" gallery anytime after the 15th of September. Multiple images can be included in the picture but only 1 picture per entry and only 1 entry per registered site member are permitted. On November 30, 2013 the contest thread will be locked and voting will commence.

Voting will take place during the first 10 days of December, 2013. Only registered members of Age of Strife will be permitted to enter and vote in this event. If you are a member of another site receiving this, the link to join AOS is http://www.ageofstrife.com and new members are always welcome.
Failure to comply with any of these rules will result in disqualification from this event.

The winner will be announced on the 11th of December giving you time to get a nice Christmas present for yourself from Gaming Figures!

The prizes will be:

First Place - £65
Second Place - £50
Third Place - £35
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby timewizard » Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:14 pm

Right. After a team discussion, it was decided to unlock this thread for questions and comments, so feel free to do so.

Please do not attempt to post any actual entries until the official start of the contest.

And many thanks to the gents at Gaming Figures for sponsoring this event and putting forth the prizes! Cheers to them!
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Talus » Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:23 pm

So everyone knows

the number of votes that people get will depend on the number of entrants to submit a final picture

blatant copy and paste here:

Every registered member of the site may vote. The total number of votes each member may cast will depend on the number of entrants as follows;
Up to 5 entries - 1 vote per registered member
6 to 10 entries - 2 votes per registered member
More than 10 entries - 3 votes per registered member
You can change your vote(s) until the poll is closed. No poll results will be revealed (even to the moderators) until the poll has closed.


we figure, why broke what isnt fixed =D



given the length of this contest, i have a few expectations from you people!

conversions! get em done!

even if you dont want to paint something, but have a very nice idea for a kitbash, get it done, get it entered and submit it!

while these contests may be based around painting, its not essential!

Remember, we want you to be voting for the quality of the work done, so for example, if something has a beautiful converted part, but a substandard paint job, vote for that converted part!


theres 3 months to work on an entry, so make them good ones guys!
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Ljundhammer » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:52 pm

I've a 1/2 started conversion littering various bitz boxes around a storage bin somewhere. Can I enter a project I've already started?
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby timewizard » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:21 pm

As long as it is all GW plastic kits and the conversion contains no parts from any other company, then yes, it is allowed.

Parts from GW plastic kits are allowed for the conversion work as well.

One other point, the entry and/or any conversion work should not include any finished bits, kits or parts. Everyone is going to have to be on their honor on this point.

Let's keep this fair and honorable all!
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Socaddict » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:20 am

No forgeworld resin or etched brass symbols then?
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Talus » Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:12 pm

nope, GW Plastic only

Greenstuff, plasticard and your general modelling materials are still allowed though
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Cain Tiberius » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:44 pm

Talus wrote:nope, GW Plastic only

Greenstuff, plasticard and your general modelling materials are still allowed though


But only for conversions. Not scratch builds right?
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Talus » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:13 pm

correct
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby hunter101 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:13 pm

The state of some of GWs plastic kits thes days, you might as well be Kit Bashing.
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby timewizard » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:11 pm

Good questions and comments. Thanks all.

TO make it fair, clear and above board, the following is being added to the contest rules (BER event only).

"Contestants must submit a WIP picture of any converted model prior to priming to show only allowed components were used."

Remember that this is a three month contest, so there will be plenty of time to do this all up.
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Socaddict » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:04 pm

so, stretching the rules here then, could I make a greenstuff mold of a FW piece (e.g. a resin Blood Angels icon), cast it in GS then use that instead?
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Talus » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:51 pm

you are welcome to hand sculpt it, but casting it with greenstuff, would still be using a forge world piece, it would also be copyright infringement against forgeworld, which neither this site, nor this contest, will allow

using recast pieces would result in immediate disqualification from the contest
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby paulmc » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:57 pm

can you use gw metals?, I was thinking of entering my vanguard veterans but they are a mix of gw metal and plastic
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Talus » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:58 pm

no metals, no resins, no recasts, GW plastic kits ONLY
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Angelwing » Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:33 am

Nothing 'plastic only' left to paint, which while sad for the competition, is lucky for me...
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby killmaimburn » Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:26 am

paulmc wrote:can you use gw metals?, I was thinking of entering my vanguard veterans but they are a mix of gw metal and plastic
Talus wrote:no metals, no resins, no recasts, GW plastic kits ONLY
trying to work out if anyone is eligible for this daftness when even half people buying straight out of GW store to enter can't enter. :lol:
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Socaddict » Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:31 pm

GW plastic kits, or GW plastic components? One of the things I want to use in my entry is a from a GW plastic upgrade sprue, that isn't sold as a kit on its own.
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Cain Tiberius » Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:57 pm

As far as I've seen, you can use any piece(s) from any GW plastics range (kits or upgrade so long as its plastic)

So if you want a Tau Riptide riding in the back of Landraider being pulled along by a Frost Pheonix.... And have Ork and Elf heads all over it... That is legal!

And it's not the organiser that are making these rules... It is the suppliers if the prises that set the rules.. IE... Gaming Figures and ultimately Games Workshop!
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby timewizard » Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:26 pm

@Socaddict - If it's a plastic upgrade sprue, and it is sold as such by GW, then it is allowed to be used.

As Cain said, these are the limitations and restrictions that were imposed by the prize donor. Myself and Talus roughed out the announcement and it went back and forth before it was finalized. One item that was key from the beginning was that only GW plastic kits could be used and the winning prize vouchers could only be used for GW plastic kits.

The restrictions on no forge world or metal parts are there for a simple reason. If you were allowed to use them, then how much would be too much? Someone could, in theory, enter 3 forgeworld tanks and place a GW plastic space marine beside them saying "I'm entering a GW Space Marine and bulking him out with "some" forgeworld pieces." Ridiculous you say? Well saying "some" forgeworld or metal or resin kits or parts could lead to that very thing. We have then to maintain that any amount is too much. So to keep it simple and easy, NO forgeworld OR metal OR failcast or pieces in ANY medium from ANY company other than GW plastics are allowed.

There is simply no other way to ensure that the restrictions set by the sponsor (GW plastic kits only) can be maintained.

And again, thank you to all for the questions and comments. This is why the announcement for this event went up a month in advance. It is to allow people to be very clear on the rules, and I hope this explains why they need to be as specific as they are for this particular event.
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby killmaimburn » Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:09 pm

Cain Tiberius wrote:And it's not the organiser that are making these rules... It is the suppliers if the prises that set the rules.. IE... Gaming Figures and ultimately Games Workshop!

In calling it daftness I didn't accuse any member of being daft.. the setting is daft.
People using legit purchase old stuff can't.. People buying new stuff can't. Its counter intuitive to the idea of a promotion.
One might as well say create a tweaking tool for windows 98 using locoscript to sell xbawkz- but its all said and done meh.
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby timewizard » Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:36 pm

killmaimburn wrote: In calling it daftness I didn't accuse any member of being daft.. the setting is daft.
People using legit purchase old stuff can't.. People buying new stuff can't. Its counter intuitive to the idea of a promotion.
One might as well say create a tweaking tool for windows 98 using locoscript to sell xbawkz- but its all said and done meh.


BER Event page 1 sentence 1 wrote:All right everyone, it's time to find those unopened, half started, incomplete plastic model kits that you started, lost interest in and threw on a shelf or under a table somewhere. Now is your chance to finally finish those poor neglected projects you have been avoiding and breathe new life into them.


"People using legit purchase old stuff..." (GW plastic kits) can use them. Even if they were opened, looked at, dry fit, barely started, even in some cases primed, as long as they are GW Plastic Kits.

"People buying new stuff..." (if GW plastic kits) surely can.

It is in fact the basis of the idea for the promotion. The prizes are GW plastic kits, your choice. So the criteria for entering are GW plastic kits. Again, your choice.

It really is just that simple.
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby KInG » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:27 pm

Toby are you entering? :)
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby Ljundhammer » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:36 pm

He can't - he's allergic to GW plastic...
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Re: Announcing the "BER" event

Postby killmaimburn » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:41 pm

Of course not, (due to previous quarterly paint initiatives and everyone stopping any batreps or visible playing of 40k here last year I'm out of anything that meets those criteria, with no reason to shop).
I'm just hanging out at my bookies trying to work out whether Herne is swamped with work(by BER he'll be in the thick of it again), whether Hunter101 has anything non-forgeworld and whether Talus' can sit in the box.
I've put 2 bottlecaps and a marshmallow on Cain.

Edit- tell a lie, I have 2 generic (horrible)*plastic* isle of blood rats *only* undercoated... but still no.
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